Hummer H2 Horror Stories

Nagchampa said:
I never understand why people bash the H2 so much.



The H2 was never built to be as strong or off road capable as the H1 is. The H1 is nice but it is overkill for most people in the market for a luxury SUV. I also don't understand why everyone expects these vehicles to be able to crawl over rocks straight out of the factory. How many other trucks can, or better yet are expected to do that? There are probably less than 5 SUV's on the market that can perform intense off road maneuvers without any aftermarket parts. Yeah the Hummer H2 is an obnoxous gas guzzling ego machine but I have yet to see a vehicle that stirs peoples emotions as much as this. It is funny how it seems the most "hated on" vehicle in any forum is the H2.



I agree 100%



Oh one thing that I have never understood.... people complain about SUV's guzzling gas, yes they do. What about the millions of people that dirve pick-ups, the best selling type of vehicle in the US it seems nearly every house has one. I guess I am guilty, I too drive a "gas guzzler" and will continue to and so do millions of other people.



Help support your local Hummer dealer and buy a Hummer H2!
 
The reason's H2's are bashed soo much is due to the marketing of them.



The Hummer H1 is an unbeatable off-road machine that has earned tremendous credit and free advertising by the military. They are completely unmistakeable when you see them on the road and pretty much all men become jealous when you see one on the open road. The H1 is what started and built the Hummer name to where it is today.



The main problem I have with the H2 is how it is marketed. The commercial's all say "Hummer...Like Nothing Else". The problem is, IT IS LIKE SOMETHING ELSE. It's built on the Yukon chassis and has the same powerplant. Plainly put, its a Yukon with different clothes on. I agree that it does pretty well on a decent off-road terrain, but don't market it as "Like Nothing Else" when it's built on a pre-made GM chassis/powerplant resulting in sub-par results from true-offroaders. The way the H2 is perceived through the commercials and advertising ads is that of an unstoppable off-road vehicle. Every ad of theirs is the H2 conquering the desert or other off-road sites. Therefore each buyer percieved them to be just like the H1, only prettier and more affordable.



While GM is selling a ton of H2's ($5 billion worth to be exact), there are a lot of problems being reported from not only driver's who 'push the envelope', but daily drivers as well. Once these problems leak out to the public more, I believe there will be a drop in sales. With the introduction of the H3 is coming soon which is a more affordable SUV from the Hummer line, this leaves even more room for error from Hummer due to it being based on an S-10 chassis. Once again, IT IS LIKE SOMETHING ELSE.



I'm not one to hate on a vehicle that does not affect me directly, but through this project and research done I have found more con's than pro's in the H2's production and marketing. The "Hummer" name in people's eyes will grow cold over time due to expanded product lines with their sub-par 'true'-offroad manners.
 
GSRstilez said:
The reason's H2's are bashed soo much is due to the marketing of them....................................... but through this project and research done I have found more con's than pro's in the H2's production and marketing.
The H2's marketing would actually be a pro since the vehicle is a sales success.
 
Nagchampa said:
The H2's marketing would actually be a pro since the vehicle is a sales success.



Maybe a success now, but when the problem stories leak out as well as how the H2 is based on another GM model. Also, all these new Hummer's on the road will make the Hummer name grow boring after a while.



Who wants a car that everybody and their sister has?
 
After driving a HMMWV (H1) for a while (got about 40 miles or so, behind the wheel of one) then seeing what some people are trying to do with a H2.. I would have to agree with GSRstilez on this one. I hate the marketing of the H2 making people see the "car" as something that can go off roading and conquer everything.



The H1 is capable of flying over steep slopes (talk about mind numbing pain, instructors sure know how to make you feel like you are on a roller coaster and make you're body hurt from impact), climb over rocky paths, and can be broken. I was apart of a convoy while out in 29 Palms, CA. The H1 I was in broke down (belts all melted and fell off) due to hard driving. Then I had the pleasure of getting into the back of a USMC 7 ton troop carrier. This truck is huge and can take on a lot of what the H1 can take but due to size and weight, it can't climb as steep of a slope.



7-ton on right, 5-ton on left

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I got pictures of the HMMWV before the thing broke down.



If a H1 can be broken....imagine what Marines will do if the H2 hit the motor pool (haha yeah right.)
 
JasonC8301 said:
I would have to agree with GSRstilez on this one. I hate the marketing of the H2 making people see the "car" as something that can go off roading and conquer everything.
Just about every SUV and 4X4 truck is marketed like this. Nissan has a truck fly over sand dunes in their comercial too.
 
someone i know referred to the H2 as a riced out version of a Suburban trying to be a Humvee. . .kinda like a Civic pretending to be a Supra.
 
Crimson said:
If they take off the front grill cover, that H2 pickup doesn't look that bad...but still :down



Too bad it's based on a Chevy S-10 chassis and powerplant. :( That, in my eyes, would not only make it a *wussy* Hummer, but one that goes against their slogan "Like Nothing Else"... Another deduction for Hummer in my book.



Did not mean to offend any S-10 drivers at all. I think they are a nice truck, but for off-road techniques that Hummer's claim they can do, I don't think that chassis will cut it.
 
"This ******** barreled passed me as he tried to beat the yellow light in a school zone but missed by a good 4 seconds, so he ended up running the red and barely missing 3 kids. Needless to say I ended up right next to him at the next red light. In all reality if he would have hit the kids it would have just been an earlier death that he caused since his gas-guzzling-air-polluting-tank will end up killing us all in the end."



Uhm.
 
The H2 argument always makes me laugh. The majority of the time it's just people spewing misinformation like a bunch of parrot's.



Who really cares if the truck uses a frame from another vehicle in their line up. Does that really make it a bad truck? I think not. I do think it reduces costs though.



Here is some info on the frame,

"We share chassis and steering components with the heavy-duty 2500-Series Suburban and the 1500 Suburban," says Charlie Martin, the vehicle systems engineer for the Hummer H2 chassis and drivetrain. "But most of those shared parts have been heavily modified."



Though the H2 began life using more of a Suburban frame, the final frame assembly is made up of 3 sections. The front uses a modified GM 2500-Series utility frame. The mid-section is all new and is completely boxed. The rear section uses a modifed GM 1500-Series frame which is upgraded for 8000 pound gross vehicle weight. Front and rear receiver mounts with 9000 pound winch capability are integrated into the frame. The rear hitch has an estimated 7000 pound capacity.



I also don't understand why people get so hung up on mileage. Here is a quote from Car and Driver from their most recent test of pick up trucks.



For power users, the F-150 will be a disappointment. It tied with the Ram for worst fuel economy—at 11 mpg—on our test trip



Hmm, that's remarkably similar mileage of the H2. Ford and Dodge trucks are solds by the hundreds of thousands but no one is crying to those owners on how much they waste. Despite the low MPG of all of these vehicles they all burn as cleanly as a Civic or a Neon. If they are willing to pay at the pump then why is it anyone else's business?



Comparing the H2 to the H1 is also unrealistic. The H1 was designed as a military vehicle first and civilian vehicle after. The H2 was not. Aside from that, the price of an H1 can easily be double that of an H2. If you want to make that comparison you might as well compare a Neon SRT4 to a Viper and then complain the Neon is garbage, slow and doesn't handle or brake as well as the Viper.



Sure most H2 owners will NEVER see so much as a stone road let alone a rocky trail but I also know many Z06 owners that will never see 170mph. Does that make the respective vehicles useless??? I think not. It's just another thoughtless point people try and use to degrade the H2.



Now it's on to the H2 marketing. What the hell do you expect the commercial to say? Remember, they are trying to sell vehicles to make money.



The H2 performs very well and exceeds most other vehicles in off road capapbility (comparing stock vehicles). If the truck wasn't a threat, Jeep would not have produced their latest commercials depicting a stuck H2 and they also would not have designed a concept that dwarfs the H2.



Do H2's get stuck and/or break? Sure. So does every other car or truck out there. One person breaks a tie rod and all of a sudden the H2 is garbage. We all have to remember the capabilities of any vehicle are directly related to the skill of the driver.



Corey, I have also witnessed many close calls but it has nothing to do with the vehicle and everything to do with the moron behind the wheel. That guy would have done the same thing regardless of what he was driving. He's just an idiot.



Remember, it's a free country and people can choose to drive whatever they like. Why people waste their time and money on websites that beat the truck down is beyond me.



Joe
 
JasonC8301 said:
[If a H1 can be broken....imagine what Marines will do if the H2 hit the motor pool (haha yeah right.)



Do you think the military got too much into using the H1? Seems to me the old Jeeps, which were less capable, were used more in camp support role--and tanks were more common out in the open.



Some of the best stories out of Iraq have been when the rebel scum set up a RPG trap for an H1 convey--and got Abrams tanks instead! :eek:
 
CRUZMISL said:
Sure most H2 owners will NEVER see so much as a stone road let alone a rocky trail but I also know many Z06 owners that will never see 170mph. Does that make the respective vehicles useless??? I think not. It's just another thoughtless point people try and use to degrade the H2.

Joe
Well put Joe. As far as websites go, there is a "lemon" website for just about every brand of car and truck.
 
I'd have to agree, that the concept of an H2 being indestructable is a result of the consumer associating it to the H1 (if, in fact, they even realize there is an H1 & H2), along with advertising hype.



Sorta like that Chevy commercial when the guy just happens to pull up to a site where tons of dirt are being dropped from up above into dump trucks, & by mistake they drop a load into his bed. I can't imagine anyone actually doing that, but you don't hear complaints over the ad.



As far as a Jeep Grand Cherokee goes, I would bet that something less than 10% ever see the dirt. Would they do better? :nixweiss



The fact is that most SUVs are purchased without intent on doing any offroading. They are attractive to the intended consumer because of their performance on wet and snow covered roads, you sit up nice & high, & the utility of space they provide. The extent of off roading they see might be when the old man uses one to go to deer camp in hunting season, but that's about it.
 
SuperBuick said:
I'd rather own 1/2 of a Grand Cherokee than 2 hummers (h2s)



The H2 IMHO is a glorified overpriced suburban for rich people who enjoy showing off and sucking up our precious natural resources to fuel their egos.



End of rant



Totally agreed!!!!!!!! All though I think they're kinda neat, those are for people who are pushy bullies, when they drive one down the road it's like saying "I'm coming through, get out of my way or else!!!!!!!!!" Also what happens if you nail one of those in a head on collision??? YOUR DEAD!!!
 
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