getting 90%+ from one step

Cleaning Fool- Good to know that EZCG does not affect durability at all...



Got_Leather- I hear that, DJ. It seems like everyone is on edge this past year and things are getting a little out of hand as of late. No matter what, people are going to do things differently and have different opinions, I just don't see why there has to be so much drama? It's not like we're talking about open heart surgery and the person might die if the correct steps aren't followed. I think everyone needs to take a cold shower and chill out a little.



I think it should be everyones new years resolution on Autopia to be a little more respectful of others, or maybe just word things differently... :hifive:. All the drama and bickering gets kinda old after a while. Sometimes it's worse than a bunch of women! :chuckle: :D
 
RickRack said:
God, this brings back memories :chuckle:. Right after I graduated high school, I bought a detailing business and had to clean 10 to 15 cars per week that were sent to the auction. I remember 1-stepping the cars with a wool pad and Pro Gold, which was good enough for the $$ I made on each car. All the guy cared about is that it lasted until it was sold, so I know what you are dealing with. As long as the guy is happy and you are making a profit, that's all that matters.
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I can respectfully agree with you & gusbubba on dealers cars going to the auction, but I could never rest with a clear concience with the cars that would very well be sitting on their lot for 30, 60, 90 or even 120 days. That coupled with the lot washers using cheap LSP stripping soaps give competitors an easy in on your account knowing where your weaknesses lye if they see cars covered with halos. Heck I'd wipe a car down with WD-40 if I knew they'd never come back to bite me in the butt. :chuckle:
 
gofast908z said:
Sorry, no pics today, but will have them probably tomorrow.



Black 09 CTS with HEAVY swirls and holograms, using the PC XP with LC orange on speed 6 with Menz SIP. Never got 90%+ from one stage before!! This is crazy! And it has a great gloss and no micromarring either. Just thought I'd share ;)
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This has been my EXACT "go to" method for quite some time (PC, LC Orange, SIP, speed 6). It works incredibly well. I do prefer to finish off with something else like 106 though, but the paint looks pretty darn good after SIP alone.



http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-de...ion/100295-menzerna-sip-106ff-holy-grail.html
 
David Fermani said:
I can respectfully agree with you & gusbubba on dealers cars going to the auction, but I could never rest with a clear concience with the cars that would very well be sitting on their lot for 30, 60, 90 or even 120 days. That coupled with the lot washers using cheap LSP stripping soaps give competitors an easy in on your account knowing where your weaknesses lye if they see cars covered with halos. Heck I'd wipe a car down with WD-40 if I knew they'd never come back to bite me in the butt. :chuckle:
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I totally agree, David! Every car that rolls out of the shop is a rolling advertisement of my business, so sometimes I have to turn away jobs if the customer is not looking for a quality detail. I'm sure I could make more money doing hack jobs, but it wouldn't take too long for people to find out and know you're a hack. I totally know where gusbubba is coming from though. Wholesale work is completely different...
 
RickRack said:
I totally agree, David! Every car that rolls out of the shop is a rolling advertisement of my business, so sometimes I have to turn away jobs if the customer is not looking for a quality detail. I'm sure I could make more money doing hack jobs, but it wouldn't take too long for people to find out and know you're a hack. I totally know where gusbubba is coming from though. Wholesale work is completely different...
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:har: lol Rick whats so different? Pressure washing interiors? Gutting seats. Or the good ole phrase. Just cut it and ship it. You mean people on autopia don't put pledge on there cars to make them shine? Spray painting the wheel wells black to hide everything? Well really spray painting everything? LOL whats a vacuum we have carpet dye! OH man I could go on and on about them days. lol :hifive:
 
bufferbarry said:
:har: lol Rick whats so different? Pressure washing interiors? Gutting seats. Or the good ole phrase. Just cut it and ship it. You mean people on autopia don't put pledge on there cars to make them shine? Spray painting the wheel wells black to hide everything? Well really spray painting everything? LOL whats a vacuum we have carpet dye! OH man I could go on and on about them days. lol :hifive:
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Haha... Seriously! :D



Gotta love good ol' auction details! It's so funny when I think back to what I used to do to some of these cars. What's more amazing is how much money the guy made that sold the cars :chuckle:. God, I can remember a huge black cargo van that was completely oxidized with no hope. He told me to do whatever was necessary to make it look good for the auction for $50. Out came the silicone tire dressing and a microfiber towel!! :D Works great on paint! :up LOL
 
bufferbarry said:
:har: lol Rick whats so different? Pressure washing interiors? Gutting seats. Or the good ole phrase. Just cut it and ship it. You mean people on autopia don't put pledge on there cars to make them shine? Spray painting the wheel wells black to hide everything? Well really spray painting everything? LOL whats a vacuum we have carpet dye! OH man I could go on and on about them days. lol :hifive:
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lol leave it to another grunt to make me laugh out loud... i think my dog thinks i'm crazy
 
I have learned a lot about a few people from reading this thread....but I digress.



Interesting, I never knew EZ Creme had any cleaning capabilities. I wonder if it truly has cleaners, or if what you are seeing is more of a product of the pad, and the EZ Creme is simply serving as a lubricant?
 
Got_Leather said:
People live for the drama.
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not everyone :bigups ... and is the reason why some don't visit/frequent here as often or at all anymore...



happy new year :2thumbs:
 
weekendwarrior said:
I have learned a lot about a few people from reading this thread....but I digress.



Interesting, I never knew EZ Creme had any cleaning capabilities. I wonder if it truly has cleaners, or if what you are seeing is more of a product of the pad, and the EZ Creme is simply serving as a lubricant?
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It sure does. That is the difference between Danase Wet Glaze and EZ Creme Glaze hence the reason why DWG you can layer on top of any LSP. Pick a bottle up David and give it a try. 2 VERY small pea sized drops will do a panel or half a hood. Speed 6 and work it in. You will see for yourself. Either way, hope you had a good holiday bud, I look forward to seeing more of your work.



Big Al - Yea man, tell me bout it. Hope all is well. Happy New Years
 
BigAl3 said:
not everyone :bigups ... and is the reason why some don't visit/frequent here as often or at all anymore...



happy new year :2thumbs:
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I hate drama too, which is why I never get involved in pissing matches with other people online. It doesn't really get you anywhere and isn't very professional in my opinion. You never know who might read it...

If these people spent more time :buffing: and less time :argue, than they wuld be a better detailer and have mre $$, haha...





I admit that I don't visit here as much due to all of the bickering...



Happy New Year everyone and lets try to get along! :)
 
Got_Leather said:
I'm lost for words anymore on this site. You give one simple recommendation and post something you have experienced and liked and the thread goes in several directions that were never needed. I kind of missed the old days where I was a lurker :)



I really have to be one of the people who uses EZ Creme more than anyone else and for the PURPOSE it SHOULD be used for, it cleans the paint and you can apply whatever LSP you want on top with no problem at all.
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Well........ you have now experienced Internet fame, if you are regarded as someone who is percieved as doing good or great work you will have your heels nipped at by people who cannot do it, so they try and tear you down.



I have used CG extreme for a long time, and as a NON-Stockholder in CG I just put up what I used on my corrections like everyone else here and learned that sometimes no good deed goes unpunished. Instead of trying a product and getting the results for themselves(or using the product but denying it because they are at odds with the person lauding the product or method)there are ALWAYS some who stir the poo.......always.



Auto detailing is pretty straight foward and results driven, stuff either works or it does not even though opinions vary.........the car will tell the story good or bad and it sucks for the guys on the detailing websites who are trying to learn the trade for financial gain or to just do a better job on their personal vehicles, because honestly it seems you cannot win as the few ruin it for the many and the more seasoned guys do not want to share any info because it does not get you anywhere as I have had this conversation with a few of the top guys in the trade about this very thing.
 
Auto Concierge said:
Well........ you have now experienced Internet fame, if you are regarded as someone who is perceived as doing good or great work you will have your heels nipped at by people who cannot do it, so they try and tear you down.



I have used CG extreme for a long time, and as a NON-Stockholder in CG I just put up what I used on my corrections like everyone else here and learned that sometimes no good deed goes unpunished. Instead of trying a product and getting the results for themselves(or using the product but denying it because they are at odds with the person lauding the product or method)there are ALWAYS some who stir the poo.......always.



Auto detailing is pretty straight foward and results driven, stuff either works or it does not even though opinions vary.........the car will tell the story good or bad and it sucks for the guys on the detailing websites who are trying to learn the trade for financial gain or to just do a better job on their personal vehicles, because honestly it seems you cannot win as the few ruin it for the many and the more seasoned guys do not want to share any info because it does not get you anywhere as I have had this conversation with a few of the top guys in the trade about this very thing.
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Exactly, Bob! I can only imagine what some "guest" or "new" people to the forum are thinking when they read threads like this. I wouldn't want to join.



Paint Correction is like a trip to the beach, there are many ways to get there but your trying to get to the same place. Of course some things set the standards and are most popular because I believe they are the best well rounded products.



Like Menzerna polishes changed the way several people do correction work.

Meg's 105/205 changed the way people do correction work with the PC.
 
David Fermani said:
I can respectfully agree with you & gusbubba on dealers cars going to the auction, but I could never rest with a clear concience with the cars that would very well be sitting on their lot for 30, 60, 90 or even 120 days. That coupled with the lot washers using cheap LSP stripping soaps give competitors an easy in on your account knowing where your weaknesses lye if they see cars covered with halos. Heck I'd wipe a car down with WD-40 if I knew they'd never come back to bite me in the butt. :chuckle:
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David, thank you for meeting me halfway on this issue and for what it's worth, I agree with you 100%. When it's MY name and MY business being judged, I hold my work to a higher standard, also.. I'd be surprised if you didn't get upset by the issue involved in the discussion.....I respect your work and your opinion and bear you no ill-will. I think there was just a hiccup in communication.

The point I was probably doing a poor job of getting across is that there IS a distinction between what I feel is top work and what others (who are paying me) will settle for.

The work I was referring to originally is supplemental income done under the name of the shop owner or dealership and to THEIR standards. I'm careful to keep any affiliation with my own business out of it. They don't care about my personal ethics, they just want a quick turn-around.....and with a new baby boy to feed, my ambition to turn away work or argue with a man who wants to pay me to do work HIS way is greatly lessened.

I THINK we ultimately see things the same way, but circumstances have unfortunately altered my approach to some situations.



To the original poster of this thread, I apologize for being a part of hi-jacking what should have been a more interesting and informative discussion.
 
Well, its been an interesting read thats for sure haha.



I sure learned a lot about EZ Creme.









I just about died laughing when I told my gf that I learned a lot about EZ Creme, and she asked me: "Why, did you get a rash?" LMAO!!
 
gofast908z said:
Well, its been an interesting read thats for sure haha.



I sure learned a lot about EZ Creme.









I just about died laughing when I told my gf that I learned a lot about EZ Creme, and she asked me: "Why, did you get a rash?" LMAO!!
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That is hilarious, Jeff!



Well, what did you learn? :nana:
 
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