Freak Neighbor

As many have mentioned your best to have your own independent survey done just to verify his information. Typically a property boundary marker is a 4x4 or 6x6 concrete rectangle with a hole drilled into it to make the exact property line. So get your own surveyor and then run a nice planting bed just a couple inches off the property (on your side) and then he can always see where the line is. If I were you, the next time he got into my face I would explain to him how nice it was when the last person lived there and how everyone works together and helps each other out. I always say "kill them with kindness". Tell all your neighbors to do the same...maybe that will drive him out and you can stay were you are and live happily ever after.
 
Sounds a little like the people that used to live where we are now. The house was basically a dump including the yard. One day in the spring after we moved in I was fertilizing the yard, and the next door neighbor told me how he offered to throw fertilizer on our lawn for nothing when the previous owners were there and they refused.
 
I live in a townhouse I have an old lady living on one side and a family on the other side. I constantly cut and prune across the property line. I also pick up stray bits of garbage and I shovel snow on the sidewalk for both. They think my wife and I are the nicest neighbors they have ever had, which kind of makes me wonder who lived here before :D



I'm afraid that eventually in the time we live here the old lady might not be around and some punk like the guy you describe is going to move in! :eek: I mean I can understand if you were parking your car on his property, installing a bench or a shed on it, or chopping up a tree or two, but cutting grass, pruning?!?
 
Danase said:
This guy sounds crazy. I think I would keep a hand gun on my side when this nut is around and I am outside working.
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Heh, I already have one on my side at all times. F this guy, Im a pr!ck and would get back at him for it but you arent like me. One question though, why are you doing your yard when you live in a townhome? We live in one and thats what we pay the association fees for, they do all the yard work and landscaping.
 
This will better illustrate what I am talking about. :angry :angry



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The island with the tree is where I have planted flowers and bushes. You can see the small area that I just want to cut (even block) to keep my yard looking better when I cut the grass.
 
Pull up all the flowers and bushes in the island and just leave the dirt and crappy area for him to deal with....block it with your nice bushes and flowers. I would bet that your property line does that because your town requires a minimal square footage for a legal size lot. So they offset it to match the requirements.
 
Wow, that sucks.



Are you thinking that the survey is wrong? It does happen. Is your neighborhood older or newer development? If it's newer it would be easier to go to city hall and find the documents you need. Also if it's a condo/town home there will be a condo plat that will show all the lot lines. You should have a copy of that already with your paper work when you bought the place. Otherwise the developer should be more than happy to get you one. And of course you could always hire a surveyor. If you find any of the documents and need help with them just shoot me a PM or email. I'm more than happy to help. Good luck.
 
Why would the property lines be that shape? Aren't most very similar? Rectangular would seem like the common shape. If so, Do you own the Small other triangle on the other side?
 
yea, that does seem alittle crazy. Im a surveyor and Ill tell you that I see some crazy stuff like that.. Sometimes a person behind a desk didnt have a clue what they were doing which leads to stuff like that..



If he crosses your line in the top of the pic go crazy on him..



Ohh, sneak out at night and move all the stakes.. Then put plastic forks all in his yard.. lol
 
If you plant bushes, flowers along your property line, you better make sure they don't lean over his side! You might find them all hacked up because they were invading his space!
 
hooked said:
If you plant bushes, flowers along your property line, you better make sure they don't lean over his side! You might find them all hacked up because they were invading his space!
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I like this idea. Just plant a row of flowers or some other landscaping along your side of the property line (once you're confident where it really is) and clearly deliniate where your yard ends for folks driving by. That will make it obvious to passers-by when you care for your yard and your neighbor doesn't.



Of course, there's also the issue of the trees when obviously must overhang your property if they need to be trimmed or cared for. Perhaps the community has some sort of rules on this sort of thing?
 
That neighbour sounds way too harsh.

You might want to consider a move to Canada and soon my neighbour will be moving so you could buy his house.

1/2 acre, great house, great lawns/flowers, and we could share detailing products and lawn tools.

Come on up and bring some Buds or Rolling Rocks, it'd be an honor to have you next door.

-John C.
 
Wow that sucks man I would just ignore him. Stay on your side and when he's watching you "scratch yourself" with a small grin lol.
 
Several years ago, I had a new neighbor move in. I was out cutting the grass one day and he runs over and tells me that he would appreciate it if I didn't cut the grass on his side of the property line because I was cutting it too short. I kinda snickered and walked into the house and dug up the prints of the property lines. I then calmly walked back out and showed him that the area I was cutting is actually on my side of the line and not his as he believed. Prior to moving in he did not bother to get the property surveyed and just assumed the strip was his......ever since then he has been as nice as he can be. I guess having a little egg on your face will humble you in a hurry.
 
Raised my entire life here in Phila. I can speak firsthand to row house neighbors and surviving these everyday issues. Heck here in Phila we have had people shot over parking spots in the winter months.



Adopt a live and let live policy, I know its hard as your concern for the property and neighborhood is apparent but you will have to adapt. Accept the property line (get it checked if you wish) and move on. You can not change the nature of people. I always smile and greet even neighbors who choose not to be friendly, even my little ones say hello to all.



I would say the first rule is never ever raise your voice, remain calm and let them vent a bit and respond in a reasoned and kind manner.



If it possible as suggested to refocus your garden to just you "new" property as suggested. Add a bed to delineate the property line and add a new focal point on your side. I would consider removing any plants, trees and or shrubs from the joint line to avoid issues and/or contact with the neighbor in the future.



Is the tree in question yours, old growth ? Maybe move it to your side ?
 
In Illinois there is a thing called "Easement by Prescription" it basically means that if you use/cross someone elses property for 20 years with that other person's knowledge, you can legally take that property as your own (kinda like squatting). I would SERIOUSLY look into this for PA. The time of 20 years may be different (i think it's 21), but the concept would be similar. You have been there for 13 years, you can add this time (Tacking on) to the time the previous owner of YOUR home lived there to make up the 21 years (or whatever it may be for PA). If your time and the previous owners time is 21 years, you may have the right to not only use the property in question, but even OWN this property. This would be the best thing ever!!! If this works, you owe Autopia a 45 minute video of your neighbor pouting and shouting at you. If it doesn't work, construct a moat around your line and fill it with paranhas.





http://www.lgc.state.pa.us/deskbook06/Issues_Private_Property_Issues_03_Title_by_Adverse_Possession.pdf
 
With that kind of neighbor I would get my own survey done just to confirm that there were no problem with his survey. It sounds like he has no intention of trying to be neighborly and the only cure for that is a fence....
 
WELL, I wish I could say something positive for you but I am hearing only one side of the equation and that is from you. Once the man buys the house and it's property, it becomes his! That is to do with as he sees fit unless he breaks some law, local/zoning/whatever! This does not include situations which disrupt or become intolerable to other homeowner/landowners because of state/county problems in his/your area.

If you really feel you have a situation that can't be solved by dealing with the individual on a 1 to 1 basis, and it urks you this much, than you need professional help for the problem. Just make dam sure of your property lines (Survey) .

These type of arguments are simple, just ask a "decent" lawyer.
 
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