Finally used my sample of the new Optimum Coating

Dsoto87 said:
I haven't read through everything but I remember when scottwax first tried it, they said it was for bodyshops/dealers only. It wasn't going to be sold at the consumer level.



Has this changed at all? Sorry for being lazy and not looking
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Right now it's only going to be sold to pros because of concerns with non pro's applying it and not being able to remove it properly.



Anthony Orosco, said the coating was a temperamental product to apply so there was a bit of a learning curve.
 
My understanding is that it will be distributed to detailers with a specific instruction manual. My hope is that it will be released soon.
 
I'm only posting here to clear up some misunderstandings.....hopefully not making it more muddied:cool:



It's for pros only as far I know at the moment. It's going to be made as you order it, there is no stock on hand thus the reason why no retailers will carry it, as far as I know. The application method is not super complicated but it can be difficult to remove if applied to an area where you don't want it....thus one reason why it's geared for pro application only.



Anthony
 
Anthony



The only way I have found to remove it is by abrasion. Yes there is a learning curve, and the product has a limited shelf life(it is moisture cure), another reason for pro only, the pro has a chance of using the whole quantity, while a home detailer may lose the product due to age.



For the pro detailer though it is definitely a must have in the bag of tricks, a new way of thinking.
 
I'm wondering how the coating might work on black paint, and with all this talk of how hard the coating is -- how far it might go to prevent swirling in otherwise softer paint.
 
I'm hoping the pioneers or even inventor of this new system would write an article about it when its ready.



It would also be interesting how people advertise this system as part of their services.



Very exciting stuff and lots of educating would be needed.



Oh and have lots of pictures :)
 
reparebrise said:
Anthony



The only way I have found to remove it is by abrasion. Yes there is a learning curve, and the product has a limited shelf life(it is moisture cure), another reason for pro only, the pro has a chance of using the whole quantity, while a home detailer may lose the product due to age.



For the pro detailer though it is definitely a must have in the bag of tricks, a new way of thinking.
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Is OptiCoat a paintable polymer?
 
wannafbody said:
Is OptiCoat a paintable polymer?
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Actually it's closer to polyurethane and as far as painting it goes that's a great question and without speaking to Doctor G. I can only guess that it wouldn't take well.



Anthony
 
Anthony Orosco said:
Actually it's closer to polyurethane and as far as painting it goes that's a great question and without speaking to Doctor G. I can only guess that it wouldn't take well.



Anthony
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Well, it would seem that if OC can't be painted over that there is a potential issue should an OC'd car be in a wreck or keyed, etc. and need a repaint. I'm not sure that the average dealership would inform customers that the product needs to be completely sanded off before paint work could be done. Or if the customer is informed that they would remember to tell a body shop that the coating needs to be fully removed before repainting. Or worse yet the car is traded in and the next owner ends up with a potential issue without any warning. Hopefully Dr G has thought this all though and it's addressed in the contract with the distributor so Optimum is off the hook if there happens to be a future issue.
 
Sanded off? I'm not going to reread this whole thread but I thought it just needed to be polished off...I'm pretty confident that the body shop prep is going to take it off.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Sanded off? I'm not going to reread this whole thread but I thought it just needed to be polished off...I'm pretty confident that the body shop prep is going to take it off.
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I second....
 
Yes, sanding is not necessary as polishing with something like 105, IP, OP etc. and a wool or polishing pad should be all that's needed for removal......on paint.



Anthony
 
Anthony Orosco said:
Yes, sanding is not necessary as polishing with something like 105, IP, OP etc. and a wool or polishing pad should be all that's needed for removal......on paint.



Anthony
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Is it common for body shops to compound a car prior to painting?
 
wannafbody said:
Is it common for body shops to compound a car prior to painting?
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no, but if the bodyshops you're going to don't prep the paint by sanding then maybe you shouldn't be sending any business their way?
 
gbackus said:
no, but if the bodyshops you're going to don't prep the paint by sanding then maybe you shouldn't be sending any business their way?
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Exactly.



Most body shops, if not sanding down, at least scuff the panels with a 3M pad. They need to dull the finish so that should be more than enough to remove the coating.



Anthony
 
wannafbody said:
Is it common for body shops to compound a car prior to painting?
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gbackus said:
no, but if the bodyshops you're going to don't prep the paint by sanding then maybe you shouldn't be sending any business their way?
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Anthony Orosco said:
Exactly.



Most body shops, if not sanding down, at least scuff the panels with a 3M pad. They need to dull the finish so that should be more than enough to remove the coating.
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Yeah man, if they aren't doing a scuff before they spray, go somewhere else! You're even supposed to do that in your house if you're recoating over gloss paint.
 
It isn't my problem one way or another but I wonder how many dealership bodyshops take shortcuts. After all, when was the last time you saw an autopian detail at a dealership?
 
If anything, on a vehicle that is coated that goes to the Body Shop for paint repair, the shop tech(detailer) will more than likely buff the adjacent panels next to the ones that get refinished. When that happens, it will create more work/guessing to re-coat the new and now existing panels. When this step occurs, I can see how they'll be scratching their heads wondering which panels need the reapplication.
 
From the optimum forums, it looks like opti-coat is ready for release. I sure hope there is a way for enthusiasts to buy it somehow. It could have really good applications not just for car paint.
 
bcwang said:
From the optimum forums, it looks like opti-coat is ready for release. I sure hope there is a way for enthusiasts to buy it somehow. It could have really good applications not just for car paint.
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Or maybe a non-professional version that is almost as good that is more forgiving to mistakes. I'm willing to sacrifice some durability for a chance to try it out.

From a business standpoint, I hope that makes sense.



Posted on the Optimum forum as well:



I'll call it Opti-coat junior or Opti-glaze :)
 
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