nlkccom
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I think KSG needs time to cure, but does KAIO need time to cure as well?
Does Klasse AIO need time to cure?
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imported_smprince1
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I believe my bottle states that no curing is needed.
elk42
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i apply the SG right after then i let it cure for up to 12 hrs before i wax.
armoredsaint
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i love klasse still, even though i moved on to zaino for curiousity.
and the longer you let KSG dry, the easier it will be to remove - apply thin also, i let it dry overnight.
and the longer you let KSG dry, the easier it will be to remove - apply thin also, i let it dry overnight.
armoredsaint said:
Dry overnight? Some say to apply it the Wipe On Wipe Off method (for easy application)
If you leave it overnight isn't it super tough to remove the excess?
btw, I love the AIO effect so far.
Anyone have a link to the Bill North Wipe On Wipe Off method?
Is it as simple as applying the sealant and wiping it off with a lightly damp MF towel after about 2 minutes?
armoredsaint
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psychadelic said:
i guess it's a personal preference, some like WOWO - but I like it to sit overnight - kinda like marinating it in the paint, never an issue with removal. remember to apply it thin. :xyxthumbs
didn't bill get banned? :nervous:
armoredsaint said:
Not sure if Bill got banned.
Well, I applied the glaze with the HandJobber - awesome product - so much easier than doing it with a sponge applicator and I was able to spread it so thin that it's hard to see where it's applied until you look real close. Would this be a problem - perhaps I may be buffing it too much taking off most of the product in the process?
Also, every time I put the SG on the applicator I would mist the applicator with a Mothers QD - is that ok?
Well, I'll give it about an hour to cure on the car and then take it off.
armoredsaint
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it okay to use a QD to help with the SG, i did it all the time -
i am digging Zaino, it's quite good - but all those steps is tiring. i brought the basically the whole line :clap: just finished up on my bmw today and s40 yesterday
i am digging Zaino, it's quite good - but all those steps is tiring. i brought the basically the whole line :clap: just finished up on my bmw today and s40 yesterday
imported_RZJZA80
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Klasse AIO doesn't need any cure time IMO, I apply wax over it immediately. Klasse SG does require cure time, depending on who you talk to, 12 - 24 hours, I think the box itself says over night or something like that.
Accumulator
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The little bit of "protection" (scare-quotes intentional 
) in KAIO that might benefit from curing are of such little consequence you'd never know the diff anyhow IMO.
As for the W-O-W-O technique (which I use when applying both the Klasse twins to textured black plastic), I don't even wait 2 minutes. Pretty much just on-then-off. Seems to compromise the durability just a little but makes for a more uniform appearance on the plastic surfaces.
) in KAIO that might benefit from curing are of such little consequence you'd never know the diff anyhow IMO.As for the W-O-W-O technique (which I use when applying both the Klasse twins to textured black plastic), I don't even wait 2 minutes. Pretty much just on-then-off. Seems to compromise the durability just a little but makes for a more uniform appearance on the plastic surfaces.
armoredsaint said:it okay to use a QD to help with the SG, i did it all the time -
i am digging Zaino, it's quite good - but all those steps is tiring. i brought the basically the whole line :clap: just finished up on my bmw today and s40 yesterday
Nice Collection! How many steps does Zaino need?
P.S. Finished First coat of SG today and I'm quite impressed so far.... nice and slick. I didn't find it so hard taking it off (used QD again to help out
Accumulator said:The little bit of "protection" (scare-quotes intentional
As for the W-O-W-O technique (which I use when applying both the Klasse twins to textured black plastic), I don't even wait 2 minutes. Pretty much just on-then-off. Seems to compromise the durability just a little but makes for a more uniform appearance on the plastic surfaces.
Plastic Surfaces? Why would you do that? Does it help with appearance? I just used Black WOW for the first time today - we'll see how durable it is - sure makes trim look good though.
imported_RZJZA80
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psychadelic said:
I haven't tried adding more than 1 coat of SG so far, I just don't have the time to keep a car for that long to add so many coats
No need for QD just use plain water. You do not need to apply the HGSG thin also. Just do it as you the AIO. Waiting couple minutes before wiping off helps if you do not apply the product thin. When the product is some what wet on the car's surface (due to thick application), waiting helps it to dry and this makes it easy to wipe off. If you have problem getting the product off, just spritz some water.
Accumulator
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psychadelic said:
I notice a subtle improvement in appearance after four layers. More than that will improve durability but does not, IME, further improve the looks any. I aim for six layers.
I prefer this approach over dressings in most (~90%) cases. No streaking/running in the rain, lasts for months, nice satin-black look.
I started LSPing my black trim back when I was using a car cover on my Jag...dressings transferred to the cover, making for a nasty mess. Also, I got tired of having to redo them every few weeks. Now I just KSG (or UPP spray sealant) them and all I have to do is wash for months on end. A quick spritz of FK425/etc. after each wash adds a little bit and is quick and easy while drying the vehicle.
On the Jag I use Souveran, even on the exterior *rubber*. Been doing this since the '80s and it's worked out great. Souveran needs redone all the time though...
RZJZA80 said:
You could just add another coat after each of a series of regularyl-scheduled washes. IME one coat of KSG doesn't work out all that well, not as well as one coat of Collinite 476S. Layered, KSG is really, *really* good though. Trick is to get enough layers on there.