Diluted Simple Green On Wheels

Re: Wheel Cleaner Which??

:hijack

Don't be surprised when you see a bunch of posts missing from this thread shortly. This thread has totally gotten derailed. I'm locking it down while I peel the crap out.
 
Re: Wheel Cleaner Which??

There. Let the beating of the dead horse continue. I say we all just bow down to the mighty Simple Green and just let SA Detailer do whatever he wants to do. Obviously there is no convincing him that it is dangerous, so just feel good knowing that he has been warned and let's move on. Some dogs won't learn new tricks.
 
Re: Diluted Simple Green

"Extreme Simple Green® Aircraft & Precision Cleaner is a breakthrough water-based formula that cleans engines, aircraft, vehicles, metals, plastics, high-tech alloys, and parts. This non-corrosive, low-foaming cleaner/ degreaser does not contain reagents that oxidize finishes, cause rust or degrade elastic materials such as rubber or vinyl-but protects the life of hoses, seals, gaskets, paint finishes and other hard surfaces plus rinses residue-free for ease of use and protection of structures and finishes. "---simple green website
 
Re: Wheel Cleaner Which??

joyriide1113 said:
Yea, I get what you're trying to say. But I have no clue as to what it's doing here.

I'm not trying to being rude, but I was following the topic of wheel cleaners.

Maybe I'm just having a brain fart! :confused:
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I read in someones post about pressure washing the engine bay in this thread and I simply wanted to warn others of what i have seen when doing this. And yes it can cause problems with other parts of the vehicle as well. Sorry if I seemed to have jumped out into left field.

Here this si waht i read. Sorry again for jumping out into left field.

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Originally Posted by Clean Dean
I LOVE detailing newer engine bays !!! SG + pressure wash and dress with a water based dressing.

Richard
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Re: Wheel Cleaner Which??

The Fuzz said:
:hijack

Don't be surprised when you see a bunch of posts missing from this thread shortly. This thread has totally gotten derailed. I'm locking it down while I peel the crap out.
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Not so sure I like having my name associated as a thread starter with this, but whatever.

Frankly, I'm done caring; it seems there are many hard heads here, and talking until I turn blue in the face will do nothing. Those of us who know to play it safe will do so, others of us, well.... not my problem.
 
Re: Wheel Cleaner Which??

What I don't get is why anyone is trying to convert other people here. Present your ideas. If it is truth, it will speak for itslef. If it is not, it'll disappear into the archives forever.
 
Bottom line for newbees and pros and newbee pros and pro newbees ....read the directions and warnings on the labels of the products you use :stick
 
Re: Wheel Cleaner Which??

SA Detailer said:
This was posted just a few days ago in Detailing Showcase(Black Bentley), the concentration is higher but no one said anything.



I did a search for Simple Green here are just a few of many that use SG and posts of praises proceeded on their work but no objections.
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The Black Bentley was my thread, I however would like to clarify that I did not use the 3:1 simple green on the painted rims, I used it to degrease the tires themselves which had some horrible oily dressing on them that I couldn't get with just soap and water. The rims themselves got Megs Gold class at a higher concentration with water and wheel brush to get the dirt and an old mitt to get inside the rim.
 
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I use simple green straight --not diluted on my wheels and havent had any issues so far...works great for me.
 
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I had a friend die of alcoholism a few years back. He drank all the time and by the time he realized what damage he had caused it was too late to fix it.

I had another friend who ended up polishing his paint right off the car. Everytime he polished he would use a rotary with a wool pad and the strongest cutting compound he could find. He would do this maybe 4 times a year. Within 2 years he had spots that were so thin you could see the sheet metal under the paint. It was a silver car, so it wasn't obvious what he was doing right away, but after several passes with his super tool of death it became clear where the problem was. As with my friend who died from his mistake, it was too late for this friend to go back and use smarter car care methods.

I only share those examples because I want to point out that the damage isn't always immediate. It isn't always noticed even if it is immediate. Don't think that just because you don't perceive the damage that it isn't happening. This isn't to say that Simple Green is or is not hurting your car, but don't assume that it isn't just because you can't see any. It may work, but it isn't safe. You can pound nails with a live grenade if you want, but that isn't safe either.

I say just use the right tool for the job. If the product doesn't say that it is safe on wheels, then why use it on wheels? I'd rather use a product that says it is safe on wheels because if it turns out to be harmful then I can always persue them in court under the warranty that it would be safe for what I used it for. Simple Green has no such implied warranty.
 
I'm sure if a lot of you Simple Green Promoters had black painted wheels, you would not be soo quick to say it doesnt cause harm. Silver doesn't allow you to fully notice damage.

I'm staying out of this from now. Like was mentioned before, to each his own, and they have been warned.

Lets stop bumping this thread back up. Next time someone asks a question about simple green use, simply tell them to search or forward them the link.
 
could someone please post pics of simple green damaged wheels.....becuase i have really never seen any problems with simple green its biodegradable(sp) so it cant be that toxic and harmful
anyway i always used simple green on my bicycles to clean and degrease them, it works very well.....how ever after 2 years of clean the bike with simple green i did notice the paint starting to dull (frame color yellow and red)....i never waxed or polished my bike frame if i did every ONCE in a while iam sure the paint would have looked way better
so in conclusion if you use simple green on wheels striaght or diluted
on painted, allloy, or chrome wheels......just wax and polish them every once in a while and you will be safe
prove me wrong
 
The difference between using SG on wheels over a year in getting damage and not getting damage might be more than just the dillution. While I haven't done any lab tests to prove it; I think cleaning the wheels with a mitt or brush would be harsher than hitting it with a pressure washer. This could be the difference in why one persons wheels showed damage and anothers did not. Then there is the unexplainable reasons why damage doesn't occur. My uncle has an older van that looks pretty nice considering it's almost 10 years old and the time he spends on it. When I asked what he used he said 409 or Mr Clean. Now why the paint isn't dull or peeling at this point, I don't know. I haven't used SG in years but have been thinking for a while of picking up a gallon and giving it a shot again. My current cleaners are cheap in 5 gallon pails so saving a few dollars isn't really a big deal. I would assume that SA customer are happy or they wouldn't keep using him. I doubt few mobile detailers could survive very long with a lot of unhappy customers. At least from my experience you need happy repeat business to keep doing this. I've also learned that most of my wash customers don't care what is in the bottle. It's as simple as "here is my dirty car, give me back a clean car". They also don't see things through my eyes. Stuff I notice they don't seem to even be aware of it. Even stuff that is horribly obvious.
 
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