Collinite 476S vs. 885 vs. 915?

mbcoops said:
I just used 885 and no, it didn't hurt the paint. I topped it, 24 hours later, with IW. I'll layer the IW then be ready for winter...



I have better luck the other way- one layer of 845 IW topped with multiple coats of their paste wax (in my case 476S).
 
Accumulator said:
I have better luck the other way- one layer of 845 IW topped with multiple coats of their paste wax (in my case 476S).

I really like 845; what is the benefit of topping it with 476S? I'm really curious.
 
itb76 said:
I really like 845; what is the benefit of topping it with 476S? I'm really curious.



I think the general consensus is 845 for looks, 476 for durability so you kind of get the best of both?
 
I think he means, why does the 476S go over the 845? Since in the sealant/wax topper combo usually puts the "beauty" wax on top, it'd seem to make more sense to put the 845 on top as it's the beauty wax of the two.
 
phamkl said:
I think he means, why does the 476S go over the 845? Since in the sealant/wax topper combo usually puts the "beauty" wax on top, it'd seem to make more sense to put the 845 on top as it's the beauty wax of the two.



Hmm, perhaps I have been doing it wrong all this time? It's been my understanding it should be done the opposite way, beauty underneath, durable on top?
 
I can't imagine there's a "right" and "wrong" way to do it.



The sealant/wax combo necessitates putting the beauty layer on top so that it doesn't impede the sealant's bonding to the paint. Since I started with OTC waxes, and then later switched straight to sealants, and then boutique waxes, I've been doing the beauty wax over sealant combo so that's what I know. But for layering one wax on top of another, I guess it makes more sense to put the beauty wax underneath. It'd be like putting a glaze underneath.
 
phamkl said:
I can't imagine there's a "right" and "wrong" way to do it.



The sealant/wax combo necessitates putting the beauty layer on top so that it doesn't impede the sealant's bonding to the paint. Since I started with OTC waxes, and then later switched straight to sealants, and then boutique waxes, I've been doing the beauty wax over sealant combo so that's what I know. But for layering one wax on top of another, I guess it makes more sense to put the beauty wax underneath. It'd be like putting a glaze underneath.



Except that it seems like you wouldn't get the reflections, gloss or slickness of the beauty layer - you would get the reflections, gloss and slickness of the final layer. A darkening effect would probably be preserved but that's about all I can think of. I dunno :hm.
 
I bet that your final result isn't going to reflect only the top layer so I think if you do it that way, durable layer over beauty layer, you'd get a rough average of the two looks, rather than having the top layer completely dominant over the beauty layer. I'm sure though that the slickness would only reflect the topmost layer and that the durable layer would affect the look of the beauty layer.



I think I'm going to try this with my Pete's 53 underneath 476S to see if I can get some more depth out of the Pete's.
 
itb76 said:
I really like 845; what is the benefit of topping it with 476S? I'm really curious.



Greatest benefit is the durability. 476S is *MUCH* more durable than 845 IME.



I don't find the looks of 845 and 476S to be all *that* different, especially not after a few washes. I use 845 underneath as it's a more user friendly and trim-friendly product; I get a little better/more foolproof effect when I go over *everything* with 845 and then go back and use 476S on the painted parts. I often use the 476S on the trim too, but, well, it just seems to work better for me that way as compared to just using 476S by itself :nixweiss Sorry for the crappy explanation.



One other benefit I've seen is with regard to tape stripes/clear bras/etc. The 845 is a thinner product and less likely to leave residue along the edges of such materials. Using it as the first layer seems to make it easier to not have issues when then applying 476S.
 
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