Bnb and Wheel Sealant

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dsemmler

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As I wait for my order to arrive, I have a few questions that I thought I would ask the group. My current plan is to wash the car, clay the car, wash again and then begin my process of UPC and UPP.

During that first wash, I was planning to use the Spray and Rinse wheel cleaner first and then hose the wheels off. That would be followed by the traditional suds wash. Then the claying and another wash.

Is that when I would apply the Bnb and wheel sealant? The sealant is a little more self-explanatory as I want to seal them after they are clean. But the BnB is a cleaner as well, so I wasn't sure if I should do that at the end as well or somewhere earlier in the process.

I am trying to track down Eagle One Tire Swipes as well, I am hoping they have them at the local auto stores. I was thinking of using that to apply the BnB after the wash/clay/wash process and then make sure the wheels are still clean before applying the sealant.

Also, how many coats of sealant to most people apply? Is one coat sufficient? And is it applied after every wash or will it maintain for awhile and only need to be applied again when the wheels are a little more difficult to clean? Likewise, is the Spray & Rinse only for when they are dir-tay or is that a regular application. My initial assumption was only on an as-needed basis when the wheels are not as easy to clean.

Also, would questions like this be better in the Tire&Wheel forum or here? Sorry for all of the questions... :newbie

Thanks,
Derek
 
For S&R, I would hose off the wheels prior to washing the car for the first time. Start this process when the wheels are cool. If the car has just been driven, then let it sit for a while to allow the rims/brakes to properly cool. Spritz the S&R on a couple of the wet wheels (making sure to reach into all the crevices), then wait for a minute or two. Rinse with a strong stream of water, then complete the other 2 wheels in the same manner. Afterwards, I would use a diluted APC solution on the tires and scrub them well to remove grime and traces of old tire dressings. After you have completed cleaning the tires and wheels, you can start washing the rest of the car.

After washing the drying the car, you can either work on the paint polishing/sealant or work on the wheels. As with the paint, wheels should be polished prior to applying a sealant. One coat of sealant is sufficient, but two will guarantee complete coverage.

I prefer to apply BnB after finishing the wheel sealant step. This is just in case I accidentally get some of the sealant on the tire during the application process. My tool of choice applying BnB is a foam paint brush. The tire swipes work well on higher profile tires, but they don't conform as well to sportier low profile tires.

For routine maintenance, S&R and be diluted 50/50 with water. Reapply the sealant every 2-3 months. Apply BnB after every washing.
 
awd330 said:
Afterwards, I would use a diluted APC solution on the tires and scrub them well to remove grime and traces of old tire dressings. After you have completed cleaning the tires and wheels, you can start washing the rest of the car.
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Hmm, I didn't get an APC as I was thinking the BnB was going to act as the cleaner and the dressing. The car is brand new but the dealer did put some sort of dressing on the tires. My original thought was to hit the wheels with the S&R and then just use the soap and a brush on the tires. Does APC do a better job? What does APC stand for? Is it all purpose cleaner?

awd330 said:
As with the paint, wheels should be polished prior to applying a sealant. One coat of sealant is sufficient, but two will guarantee complete coverage.
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Hmm, another oversight on my part maybe. I thought it would work to just clean the wheels and then apply the sealant. Can I apply the UPP before the sealant? Or do I need something else to polish the wheels?

http://www.mynewchoice.com/gallery/2006-Scion-tC/IMG_1406 (wheel)

awd330 said:
My tool of choice applying BnB is a foam paint brush. The tire swipes work well on higher profile tires, but they don't conform as well to sportier low profile tires.
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Okay, now I have seen that mentioned a few times for the lower profile tires so I may opt for that approach before the tire swipe. My wife has a ton of the brushes around the house so I can grab a few.

awd330 said:
For routine maintenance, S&R and be diluted 50/50 with water. Reapply the sealant every 2-3 months. Apply BnB after every washing.
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Thanks for all of the tips and suggestions. Man, just when I start to think I have the basics down, I realize I have so much yet to learn.

Derek
 
Yes, APC means all purpose cleaner. Since the car is new, you may not have much dirt or layers of old tire dressing to contend with. In that case, you may be able to get away with using a stronger car wash solution to clean your tires during the wash process. When applying BnB, you can also choose to scrub the tires a bit with a stiffer brush. BnB does have cleaning agents in it, but you have to scrub to make the most of them. Buff off the residue from this initial BnB layer with a dry cotton "rag". Afterwards, use the foam paint brush/swipe to apply a nice and even followup coat of BnB on top. For routine maintenance, you can just use the car wash soap on the tires from here on until you are ready to reseal the wheels. Reapply BnB with the foam brush after each wash.

In your first post, you mentioned having UPC as your pre-UPP polish. That can be used as a wheel polish too prior to using PB's Wheel Sealant.
 
awd330 said:
In your first post, you mentioned having UPC as your pre-UPP polish. That can be used as a wheel polish too prior to using PB's Wheel Sealant.
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Yeah, I have the UPC and that makes sense now. Thanks again for the assistance.
 
I use both of the PB products mentioned. From my experience, both are very good performers. awd330 has already provided you with very helpful information regarding their use. I would reiterate one thought. Don't 'waste' BnB attempting to use it as a cleaner. I understand that it has cleaners in its makeup, but I don't believe that that is the intended use for the product and an area where it doesn't exactly excel (I will admit to using PB's NL as a tire cleaner when I first got it - I now reserve that product for interiors only). Even when cleaning my tires previously treated (many times over) with BnB, I use some form of dedicated cleaner to provide a 'clean slate'. I normally use a heavy car wash solution, and sometimes supplement with a diluted APC (PB also has a pretty good one - in fact it has drawn rave reviews from at least one member)

FWIW, I have been impressed with the performance and durability of a single application of the Wheel Sealant.
 
Big Bump for wheel sealant. I had 2 coats on that were about 4 weeks old. I had dirt, dust and prairie gumbo caked all over my wheels. I just used a high pressure hose nozzle and about 95% washed right off. The rest came off with just water and a foam pad. I'm excited to see how it holds up against the winter road salt here in MN. That is the true challenge! :headbang

Mike
 
Thanks to everyone for the help, man DC is a great place! I cannot wait to get started on my car with all of this new found knowledge.
 
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