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I took advantage of some warm weather here in Virginia to clay then zaino my 323i. I put on a coat of Z1 then Z5. The next day I finished with Z2. I noticed that the the bottle of Z1 was down about an inch and that I used about 1 1/4 inches of of Z2. Does this sound like the right amount to use. The car looks great.
 
The Z1 amount sounds about right. The Z2 sounds a bit too much but it takes practice getting used to doing thin coats. If this is the first time using Zaino and it removed easily then you did good.

I have heard of people using a half a bottle of Z1 and a half a bottle of Z2 their first time using it. Obviously way too much.
 
im about to use Z1, Z2, and Z5 today or tomorrow for the first time. can u guys tell me how much of each bottle i should have left after one application of each when used correctly? thanks
 
never waxed a car before that...so i think thats why i put on the correct amt...because i didnt have the past wax experience.....good thing being stupid sometimes...:D ...the Z1 should practically flash dry as u wipe it on....so that its like almost not there.....use a totally dry applicator for that.....then....wet a different applicator with the Z6.....and start the Z2 with that one.....i put about a dime size on my applicator ata time.....and spread it really thin..because they both have to dry at once and you dont want to be there all day......try that trick with front to back for top panels ans up and down for the sides...you can really see the difference.......obviously from the other posts u an tell you used too much....but like Brad said....no biggie...just go thinner on the next...all that extra u put on just got wasted thats all...$$$.....hope that helps...any other questions...dont forget u can email Sal...he gets bak to u really fast...especially on the w/e's.....have fun doods...you'll love it
 
by the time u get to measure that amount (at the end of the job)you already used what u would have used up.....that doesnt make sense as a gauge of the amt.....i use about a dime size/nickel size amt of product on the applicator.(for each section of the car).....if i said you should have a 1/4 bottle left...how would that help you....you would have to pour out 1/4 of a new bottle into a new container...then use that to polish the car...then be sure to guess at how much you should use out of that container to make it so with your last stroke you used the 2nd container all up......i dont get your question buddy.....about a dime size/nickel size...for me anyway.....its not an exact science....just have fun and enjoy yourself....:D
 
Gary,



I put a coat of Z2 on my car today . . . before applying, I filled this small 4 oz. sample bottle (see attached pic) right up to where the "shoulders" of the bottle meet the "neck". The small black dot indicates the level in the bottle after I got done with my WRX. I'd guess that's maybe 1/2 oz., more or less. If you have a full bottle of Z2 (8 oz.), you could use a ruler to measure out 1/2 oz. increments (height of bottle/16); that will give you some feedback as to how much you're applying. In my experience, you will need about the same amount of Z1, maybe a little more.



Caveat: I use a foam polishing pad on a PC 7424 random orbit polisher to apply Z1, and a foam applicator to apply Z2/Z5. I've found this combination allows me to apply very thin coats, and use less product (ymmv, but I've found that terry covered applicators use up more product, and don't "glide" on quite as well).



Hope this helps,

Tort



P.S. I'm going to try to put another coat on tomorrow . . . I'll takes some pics of the foam applicator I use with some product on it, and show just about how much I'm using per panel.
 
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<strong class='bbc'>by the time u get to measure that amount (at the end of the job)you already used what u would have used up.....that doesnt make sense as a gauge of the amt.....i use about a dime size/nickel size amt of product on the applicator.(for each section of the car).....if i said you should have a 1/4 bottle left...how would that help you....you would have to pour out 1/4 of a new bottle into a new container...then use that to polish the car...then be sure to guess at how much you should use out of that container to make it so with your last stroke you used the 2nd container all up......i dont get your question buddy.....about a dime size/nickel size...for me anyway.....its not an exact science....just have fun and enjoy yourself....:D [/b]</blockquote>
the point of my question was not to limit myself on what i can use but to use it as a guide to critique how well im using it afterwards. if im expected to use about 1/4 a bottle per car, and i end up using 2/5, then i know im using a bit too much and learn to use less next time, etc...
 
This is what I find. A nickel size amount on any applicator will cover the hood except when it is hot out. When hot out or in the sunlight the Zaino tends to dry faster so it is harder to spread thin. I then apply dime amounts and do half a hood at a time.



Experiment! You will get better each time you apply it. I have used both terry cloth and foam pads. I have the same success with each.



Do remember to re-apply a coat of Z1 after about 5-10 coats of Z2 & Z5.



Practice makes permanent not perfect so experiment different techniques and find what works for yourself. Do tell what works for you.
 
NgLuder:



You should use about .25 inch off your Z2/Z5 bottle for one coat when you do it right.

If you used close to .5 inch you are using too much.



I expect my Z2 bottle to go for about 18-20 coats.

I have 4 coats on and I have used up about 1.25 inch worth of Z2 and I knew 2 times out of the 4 coats I have used too much.



Anyone who thinks Zaino is expensive is just plain wrong.
 
I use about 1 oz or even a little less every time I put on another layer of zaino. If you want, you can even pour out 1 oz of z2/z5 in a shot glass (a normal one, not a tall one you guzzler!) and use it straight from there. A foam applicator is really a must with this stuff.
 
gauging how much you used. If it worked properly and dried in a reasonable amount of time you did good. As you apply additional coats you will learn to apply it thinner and thinner till you are getting 10+ applications per bottle.



I apply the thinnest coats of Z1, and tend to apply Z5 a bit thicker with Z2 somewhere in between.
 
a statement on the Zaino website that says 8 oz. should do 8-10 applications which is consistant with your and others experience. Next time I'll go a little thinner. It seems that the cotton applicator supplied by Zaino absorbes a good bit of the product. Do you use a foam applicator?



I followed the recommended procedure: dawn wash, clay, Z7 wash, Z1, Z5, next day Z6 then Z2. I was not able to get rid of what I think are water spots with clay or vinnegar so I went ahead with the zaino to get some protection on for the winter while I contemplate what to do about the spots. With the exception of the spots the paint looks and feels great.
 
this is the first detailing I have done on the car since I bought it at the end of the summer. I don't know what the previous owner had done.



I have not yet zainoed the wheels. The inside part of the wheels has caked on break dust. Do you clean and zaino the insides of your wheels and if so do you take the wheel off the car to get to the inside or do you have a method for cleaning inside the wheel without taking it off.
 
i have a quick question...



i had a paper with intructions on how to use zaino when i got myzaino stuff deleivered to me. it specificaly said to apply the Z1 in circular motions, not straight. now of course i know applying stuff with circular motions is a no no, but is Z1 a special case? or r the instructions just bad and i should go with the basic bumper-bumper type of idea?
 
I did a search on zaino here and found a post with a similar question. I believe one of the members called Sal from zaino on this issue and he said to apply Z1 in circular motions. If you have the time you can search the archives for the post, or call up Sal.
 
I believe the general consensus is to apply any product in linear front-to-back motions, regardless of what the instructions say. 3M SMR says to use firm circular motions but would you do that? I know I wouldn't.



The point of circular motions is to ensure an even distribution of the product. If you do it right, you can apply in linear motions without a problem.
 
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