AMMO NYC FROTHe

Mike lambert said:
I’ve done the same with Griot’s rinse less wash and it works just as Larry’s does.
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Wait, with no humectants?!?!

Seriously, Larry may have, working with his wife or another chemist or another formulator, created a great product, but to suggest he`s created his own chemistry...as I said, is a disservice to real chemists...very few of which actually invent any chemistry.
 
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Mike lambert said:
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve met Larry and he’s a great guy! But as far as the foamer being the best on the planet? The head is the same as the Griot’s as far as I can tell from the video. I’ve done the same with Griot’s rinse less wash and it works just as Larry’s does.
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The GG unit does look very similar. Thanks for the heads up. I’m going to order now just to compare.
 
Does the foam really do anything or is it just pretty? Like a foam lance. Not all the foam actually touches the paint. A good slick waterless wash like Wolfgang should do the same minus the pretty foam. I give Larry an Aplus for creativity and salesmanship. I’ll hold off on my purchase until I hear some Autopians reviews. I actually hope it does not leave any protection behind similar to N-914.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
Does the foam really do anything or is it just pretty? Like a foam lance. Not all the foam actually touches the paint. A good slick waterless wash like Wolfgang should do the same minus the pretty foam. I give Larry an Aplus for creativity and salesmanship. I’ll hold off on my purchase until I hear some Autopians reviews. I actually hope it does not leave any protection behind similar to N-914.
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I do a lot of mobile work and do a lot of rinseless and waterless washes. While they use much leas water than a traditional BW, they still leave a fair amount of liquid on the ground. Now this has to be cleaned up, especially when doing in customer’s garages and I find foam helps keep more product on the vehicle and less drippage onto the ground.
 
Accumulator said:
Could somebody provide the Cliff`s Notes version for those of us who aren`t gonna find/watch the video?
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In his video, Larry said, "Let me be crystal clear: AMMO FROTHe is a lubricant that helps lift dirt in the worst-case scenario, or in our detailing language, that means dry or non-lubricated paint. In other words, without the assistance of a hose or water; hence the name, “Hoseless Lift.”


And in the "description" summary below his video, it is written:

After years of frustration, we finally found the best way to wash our cars SAFELY without the use of "free flowing water". In other words, a hose, pressure washer, foam canon, etc... AMMO Frothe is for those times when using a lubricant, such as water, is not available. If you have a hose, GREAT! Use it. Frothe can be used wet or dry. This product contains humectants that help retain moisture or "lube" to protect the paint during dry or "hoseless" wiping. Regulate the amount of Frothe and towels based on the level of dirt on the paint.
 
Accumulator said:
JustJesus- Thanks for the summary, hope somebody finds his approach useful.
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You bet.

Surprisingly, Larry did use it on panels that were way dirty for me to try waterless or rinseless. And I believe he`s out in New York, with snow around the cars.
 
This has been a good read. I’m a fan of Larry but I’m skeptical of a foaming WW or RW. The advantage of foam is dispersal of product, and retention (slower runoff). That all seems good for WW. What bothers me is that foam is more air than product. Although foamy pre-rinses with foam guns/cannons make for sexy video and compelling how-to YouTube fodder, I’ve never been sold. I’d MUCH prefer a pre-rinse with plain old sprayed-on ONR, UWW+, Uber, or ECH20 than any amount of foam. My bias of pre-rinsing carries over to WW. Combine my bias with the fact that foam will prevent me from seeing the product working UNTIL wiping..... eeek! Not for me, especially at the price.
 
I have the same question, how does Larry`s foaming sprayer compare to the IK foaming sprayer? Larry`s is almost twice the price, is it twice as good?
 
ride92 said:
I have the same question, how does Larry`s foaming sprayer compare to the IK foaming sprayer? Larry`s is almost twice the price, is it twice as good?
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I found the manufacturer of Larry’s spayer and it can’t be bought like most other sprayers. I also purchased the GG pump foamer as well because the actual head looks very similar to the AMMO unit. When I have both in my possession I will take detailed pics of both to see how similar they are and do side by side foam comparisons with a few products that most of us have.
 
Not to (help) take this off-topic, but what`s the big deal with bird-bombs? Use the right LSP and they come right off with no issues at all, even after sitting in the hot sun for ages (think Long Term Parking).

Eh, hold on...OK...yeah, one of those Seagull Victims or somesuch where the vehicle is virtually coated with guano..might be good for that, especially when water usage is an issue.

But IMO when it`s just a panel or two that`s been bombed, that simply shouldn`t be an issue these days, though avoiding marring on softer paint *will* take a bit of time/effort and I know many people don`t want to spend more than a few minutes on it.
 
fly07sti said:
I found the manufacturer of Larry’s spayer and it can’t be bought like most other sprayers. I also purchased the GG pump foamer as well because the actual head looks very similar to the AMMO unit. When I have both in my possession I will take detailed pics of both to see how similar they are and do side by side foam comparisons with a few products that most of us have.
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Heh heh, you guys` discussion even has *me* intrigued...I`ll be looking forward to how the comparison turns out. My only experience with "foaming sprayers" was with the trigger-spray ones from GG, and that was a Total Fail (though I might try it again with 3D 50:1 Glass Cleaner some time).
 
JustJesus said:
Maybe. But I`ll just stick to Poorboy`s Bird S#!T Remover for that.
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There’s a car that sits in my drive that gets pooped on daily, when it is parked at work and I can`t do anything about it besides convince its drive to park much farther away from work, or me get a permit and build some type of shelter, which I am not doing because the location is not my property. When the car gets home, bringing out the whole bucket and water or even a rinsless set up is deemed as a waste of time that I don’t always have. Most of the time I find myself wanting to clean the bird dirt off gently without having to clean an entire panel because the poops are on at least three panels, I’d like to see how FROTHe works for spots.

Accumulator- LSP on the regularly pooped on vehicle is FK1000P, and the car will sometimes go three weeks without a complete wash. Chasing bird dirt on a dirty surface is something that can be a bit tough for Bird Sh!t Remover and the dedicated rinseless towels. FROTHe looks like a viable solution that I have just pulled the trigger on, as well as the foaming sprayer.

FROTHe and Foaming sprayer purchased, currently have the Kwazar 2L as my mobile. I will set up a comparison after the AMMO products arrive and more importantly when I have the time.
 
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