1991 Prelude Si 4WS Engine Detail...

I don't know who the question is for but they just didn't make that many of them and being 16-17 years old I'm sure that a bunch of those that were made are gone or in poor condition. So yeah, rare.:)
 
SpoiledMan said:
I don't know who the question is for but they just didn't make that many of them and being 16-17 years old I'm sure that a bunch of those that were made are gone or in poor condition. So yeah, rare.:)
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Come to MN, Preludes all over the place.
 
SpoiledMan said:
I'd bet the farm that they're not 4WS Lude's.
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I would have to agree there. I knew a guy in high school that had one of the 4WS models in yellow. It was an awesome car. Of all the years since he had that car, I may have seen maybe 4 or 5 more 4WS models in total. They were really rare cars new and have only gotten rarer over time. If you lived in some of the foreign markets, you could get an Accord with 4WS in the early 90's. They were really ahead of their time with this, and definitely way ahead of anyone putting it on a Chevy truck.
 
Jek Hawkins said:
i think i'll take that and an Acura NSX
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You and me both buddy! My next ride is an early 90's red NSX 5MT. I'm keeping a close eye on the market and you can get a decent condition one (with higher miles) for the high-$20's.

99BLACKSE said:
Was that thing ever winter driven?
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To my knowledge, I am the third owner, and the second owner (who had it since 2002) did not drive it in the winter. I cannot find any rust on the body or undercarriage. Now that the car is here in Arizona permanently, the car is not likely to ever rust out -- at least while it's under my ownership.

Damn Dirty Ape said:
An '89 model was my very first new car. I loved that car to death. 5-speed, red too.
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Glad you can relate! The styling is dated and the car is definitely "old school," but there's just something about that still makes it difficult to let go of.

SpoiledMan said:
I don't know who the question is for but they just didn't make that many of them and being 16-17 years old I'm sure that a bunch of those that were made are gone or in poor condition.
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Right you are. I don't have definitive production numbers (nobody has been able to source them yet) but the vast majority of 3rd generation Preludes were sold as either S (carbureted), Si, or Si ALB (anti-lock-brake) versions. The highest trim levels in 1990 and 1991 were the Si 4WS and the Si ALB. I guess most people opted for safety over corner-cutting ability :). Interesting also to note that this car has NO cup holders and NO air bags.

jnmttu said:
They were really ahead of their time with this, and definitely way ahead of anyone putting it on a Chevy truck.
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I totally agree. It's a shame it never caught on like Honda hoped it would. Maybe it was too expensive to produce? Dunno.



I've gotten even a little more insane with this project over the last couple of days...



Scrubbed and painted (black) wheel wells -- can't really see it here.



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Cleaned trunk.



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Waxed around the trunk opening.



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Waxed door jambs.



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This is starting to get obsessive :). LOL
 
scanlessfool said:
MY GOD!!! Beautiful Amazing work! I wish you were local, I've been looking for someone to clean my engine bay.
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Thanks. I do make it to SoCal quite a bit; maybe I could drop you a line next time I'm in the neighborhood if you haven't already found someone to work on your engine cleanup.
 
Nice! You have yourself a "jewel" and are certainly aware of it. Great work :woot2:



My first car was a 1982 Honda Prelude. It was a clean car and rare for its time which was 93-98 when I had it.

I gave it to my brother when I bought a 92 Prelude S which was an awesome car too.



I never owned a 3rd gen Prelude but I have always really liked them. As said previously, a great car for its time!
 
4cruizn said:
Thanks. I do make it to SoCal quite a bit; maybe I could drop you a line next time I'm in the neighborhood if you haven't already found someone to work on your engine cleanup.
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Ya definetly! I would LOVE for you to work on my engine cleanup. Haven't at the moment found anyone. But if you do come, just let me know in advance so I can gather up the money.
 
Incredible work! Not only is the engine spotless but so is the engine bay and not just on top but all the way down! :bow



Really nice car too. I've always liked that body style Prelude.
 
Ahh, the early 90's...IMHO the high-water mark for Honda. Very cool shots of the 4WS in action, too! They just don't make them like this anymore. :(
 
Scottwax said:
Not only is the engine spotless but so is the engine bay and not just on top but all the way down!
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Thanks! Now if I was really OCD, I'd pull the engine out and clean the bay completely ;).

BoxsterCharlie said:
Very cool shots of the 4WS in action, too! They just don't make them like this anymore.
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I tend to agree on the early-mid 90's being a high point in Honda engineering. The 4WS is a fun innovation to play around with and always surprises people :).
 
Awesome detail, especially under the hood! I'm especially impressed by the clay job under the hood; with no flat surfaces under there it must have taken forever!



4cruizn said:
I totally agree. It's a shame it never caught on like Honda hoped it would. Maybe it was too expensive to produce? Dunno.
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I think the 4WS just never caught on in the marketplace. If I remember it was over a $1000 option. Mazda had a 4WS option on the 626 back in the day too...now those are really rare!



4cruizn said:
...Interesting also to note that this car has NO cup holders and NO air bags.
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Our '98s were our first cars with cup holders or air bags. The VW's cup holders don't hold anything larger than a small coffee. Works for me.
 
jnmttu said:
If you lived in some of the foreign markets, you could get an Accord with 4WS in the early 90's. They were really ahead of their time with this, and definitely way ahead of anyone putting it on a Chevy truck.
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Honda didn't invent 4WS. Mercedes first started using it for war purposes back in the 40's. And the first 4WS application in a production vehicle was the Nissan Skyline GT-R in '85. That's right, 4WD + 4WS :) :) By 1987 when Honda first introduced 4WS, Nissan had it as an option in most of their vehicles. GM wasn't late to the game either, really. They had 4WS on a few concepts in the 80's, as did everyone else. But as usual with GM, it didnt hit the market until 2000? 2001?



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Incredible detail! Leave no man behind, or in your case, dirt particles! Great work, man! Love the 'lude, and it looks as good as ever!
 
wow! lots of posts since my last one! :)



Glad to find somebody who would join me in collecting high-quality Hondas! :)



I am actually being very picky about the NSX I want, haha. I want the latest possible NSX that is equipped with the flip-top lights, comptech supercharged preferred. I would get the top blacked-out like the earlier models, though (I like to call it the "cloaked" look). 5MT of course :). And the Prelude is still looking darn nice! Keep up the good work! :) The Prelude Si 4WS is def on my list of cars to at least drive and at most own! :)
 
grease said:
Honda didn't invent 4WS. Mercedes first started using it for war purposes back in the 40's. And the first 4WS application in a production vehicle was the Nissan Skyline GT-R in '85. That's right, 4WD + 4WS :) :) By 1987 when Honda first introduced 4WS, Nissan had it as an option in most of their vehicles. GM wasn't late to the game either, really. They had 4WS on a few concepts in the 80's, as did everyone else. But as usual with GM, it didnt hit the market until 2000? 2001?
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Concepts are great but they're just that if they don't make it to market. The *only* Nissan car that came to the USA before the Prelude with 4WS was the 300ZX TT in 1990 (Super HICAS) so that's all we recognize. None of the other 4WS Nissans ever made it at all.
 
Hey, I didn't know you picked up a Prelude, but anyways that car looks amazing. Maybe you should give me some tips to keep my RL clean since I'm just now trying to get used to the black and the maintenance the paint requires.
 
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