Rinseless Roundup

Considerably more solution is used in a rinseless wash. Waterless product are have more polymers to encapsulate the dirt because they don't have the added water to help protect the paint. And because polymers cost more than water, WW are considerably more expensive to use. But, you don't need a bucket.

It is hard to tell in the video, but the 660 GSM MFs I was using for the first wipe probably held about 8oz of solution (maybe more). The method I demonstrated is an amalgam of rinseless and waterless techniques.

To me, the greater the solution, the greater the amount of dirt I can remove. I will tackle much dirtier vehicles with a rinseless wash than a waterless. In my spectrum of uses:

QD - freshly washed car
WW - dusty to very lightly dirty
Rinseless - dirty (add foaming and pressure rinse to attack even dirtier)
Traditional - very dirty.

The other areas I frequently use WW are the door & trunk jambs and final wheel clean (after more aggressive methods). Just easier to control.
 
holland_patrick said:
what's the difference between a rinseless wash and a waterless wash?


Other then less water...
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The formulas can be quite different. Much like asking what the difference between a traditional car soap is and a rinseless wash is; or a rinseless wash and a waterless wash.

Traditional car washes require an adequet volume of water (5 gallons is recommended) and require flushing the surface with water to remove the residue.

Rinseless car washes require a minimum of 2 gallons of water (more is better) and work by encapsulating dirt and allowing to float off of the surface. Unlike traditional washes, they do not require a volume of water to remove residue.

Waterless car washes are designed to be used with a minimal amount of water. They encapsulate dirt and attach it to the cleaning towel/mitt.

Ultimately, all three styles of products perform the same task: They clean your car. The way that they clean your car is vastly different which is why the car care industry has adopted the definitions above. I understand it can be confusing, so I hope the above helped. :bigups

There are plenty of great waterless wash products that perform the functions you listed: Optimum Opti-Clean, BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Waterless Wash, Detailer's Waterless Wash, Utlima Waterless Wash, Chemical Guy's ECO Wash, Griot's Garage Waterless Wash, and of course, your preference, Poorboy's Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash.

Some of the waterless wash product can be used as both a rinseless wash or a waterless wash, such as Ultima, where as some are designed for their specific task, such as BLACKFIRE.
 
mjlinane said:
Considerably more solution is used in a rinseless wash. Waterless product are have more polymers to encapsulate the dirt because they don't have the added water to help protect the paint. And because polymers cost more than water, WW are considerably more expensive to use. But, you don't need a bucket.

It is hard to tell in the video, but the 660 GSM MFs I was using for the first wipe probably held about 8oz of solution (maybe more). The method I demonstrated is an amalgam of rinseless and waterless techniques.

To me, the greater the solution, the greater the amount of dirt I can remove. I will tackle much dirtier vehicles with a rinseless wash than a waterless. In my spectrum of uses:

QD - freshly washed car
WW - dusty to very lightly dirty
Rinseless - dirty (add foaming and pressure rinse to attack even dirtier)
Traditional - very dirty.

The other areas I frequently use WW are the door & trunk jambs and final wheel clean (after more aggressive methods). Just easier to control.
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Excellent reply, I know the terminology can be confusing, but you summed it up perfectly.
 
UPDATE -

I've spent some quality time with a couple of new-to-me rinselesses and wanted to add my opinions on them.

Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash
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Size............ Cost................. RTU $/gal
16 oz.......... $17.99.............. $0.56
64 oz.......... $39.99 ............. $0.31
128 oz........ $49.99 ............. $0.20

Autopia Car Care description:
"The rinseless wash formulated for automobile lovers!

Safely removes dirt, grime, and road pitch from delicate paint surfaces without scratching
Blankets the paint with a layer of Pinnacle's famous carnauba wax
Easy-to-use formula safely washes and waxes your paint anywhere you can bring a bucket

Give your automobile Pinnacle's trademark wet shine each time you wash it with Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash with Carnauba. Pinnacle has a proud tradition of creating dazzling wet paint finishes using the finest blend of ivory carnauba waxes. Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash with Carnauba is formulated with the purest grade carnauba wax to clean, protect, and shine your automobile in one easy step. This ultra-high lubricity formula floats dirt and grit off of the surface without scratching. The premium Pinnacle carnauba wax imparts a deep, shimmering shine that dances across your body work. Pinnacle Rinseless Wash with Carnauba is the quick and safe way for connoisseurs to care for their automobiles.
Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash with Carnauba can be used as a high gloss detail spray!

Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash with Carnauba cleans your automobile with just a few gallons of water. That means less water running down the drain or finding its way into rust prone areas of aged coachwork. By eliminating the need for a rinse, you can now pamper your automobile with the finest care anytime, anywhere! The advanced cleaning agents in Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash with Carnauba encapsulate road soil, dirt, filth and grime providing a protective barrier against scratching the most delicate paint finishes.

Carnauba wax is nature's precious protectant that is harvested from the Carnauba Palm, found in Northeastern Brazil. When blended to perfection, it gives paint an unmistakeable shine. Pinnacle has been crafting the finest carnauba waxes for over two decades. Enjoy the very same carnauba wax each time you wash your automobile with Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash. The premium grade carnauba wax in Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash bonds to the finish as you are washing to protect the paint, then cures to impart your paint with a liquid shine as your dry. You can use Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash to clean and protect all wax finishes but the result is especially breathtaking when used on automobiles already treated with Pinnacle's fine waxes.

Pinnacle Natural Brilliance is dedicated to protecting the environment. By eliminating the amount of water needed for washing, as well as preventing run-off from rinse water, Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash with Carnauba is an ideal eco-conscious alternative to traditional car washes. Now you can pamper your automobile even if you live in a water restricted area."

Dilution ratio: 0.5oz / gallon

Awesome fragrance. From the first wipe, I could tell Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash was going to leave a beautiful finish - and it certainly did. Cleans very well. Left no marring.

I love this stuff! My favorite maintenance rinseless... for now. ;)

Full review: http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums...iew-pinnacle-liquid-gloss-rinseless-wash.html

Meguiars D114 Rinse Free Express Wash
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Size............ Cost................. RTU $/gal
128 oz........ $39.99 ............. $0.32

Autopia Car Care description:
"The fast, easy, and safe way to rinseless wash your vehicle

Clean all exterior surfaces without rinsing
Non-streak formula with quick & easy wipe-off
Biodegradable and safe for the environment


Meguiar's Rinse Free Express Wash quickly and efficiently cleans all exterior surfaces, even in direct sunlight, without rinsing with water! It is even safe for interior surfaces. Meguiar's Rinse Free Express Wash combines high performance cleaning power with easy of use. New technologies in surfactant cleaners allow this rinseless wash to remove moderate soiling and dirt without scratching the paint.

Dilute 1 part of Rinse Free Express Wash with 128 parts of water for multiple cleaning uses. Meguiar's Rinse Free Express Wash is perfect for cleaning your vehicle when running water isn't available such as at an apartment building or in your garage during the winter. It also works wonders for detailers who rely and quick and efficient cleaning with out sacrificing quality. Best of all, using Meguiar's Rinse Free Express Wash will conserve large volumes of water making it great for the environment.

When you need a rinse free clean in record time, use Rinse Free Express Wash, from the name you know: Meguiar's."

Dilution ratio: 1 oz / gallon

Great fragrance. Used at the 1 oz per gallon, it does clean well. Is very slippery and will suds up on you.

Theoretically, it leaves nothing behind (obviously, I cannot prove this) so, if you like your finish, D114 will leave it unmolested. I bought D114 because of this property but not exactly for that reason. To me, D114 is my rinseless to use pre-correction. But I am probably just overthinking it.

D114 does its job well but, for 50% less per wash, I'll take Pinnacle's beautiful finish - for maintenance washes anyway. It does have its place in the stable, though.

Another new-comer has also made its way into the fold. After I get a handle on it, I will add it, too.

Note - I currently have no plans on getting the new ONRW and would encourage a similar entry for it here - for the sake of completeness - by another member who has tried it. I'm sure one day I'll get around to it.

 
mjlinane said:
Note - I currently have no plans on getting the new ONRW and would encourage a similar entry for it here - for the sake of completeness - by another member who has tried it. I'm sure one day I'll get around to it.
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One day could be next week! ;)
 
mjlinane said:

Theoretically, it leaves nothing behind (obviously, I cannot prove this) so, if you like your finish, D114 will leave it unmolested. I bought D114 because of this property but not exactly for that reason. To me, D114 is my rinseless to use pre-correction. But I am probably just overthinking it.


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No you are not overthinking it.
Michael Stoops said if you use a high concentration, RFEW will strip the surface clean and remove some old wax too.

I use RFEW to remove oils from polishing when needed.
 

Thanks for the additions Mike !!!


I liked the gloss and slickness left from the Pinnacle LGRW, but I thought it was a little easy on the cleaning ability. I can see using it in the dry summer season but around here I get to much bonded contamination in the winter or wet season.


I had the chance to use Meg's D114 Express wash and was very impressed. I like the fact that it left my LSP unmolested and had good cleaning ability. I have seriously considered getting a gallon as it was a very good rinseless wash.


Mike, I have used the new ONR+C. I can say that if you have and like the newer ONRv3 you should at least try a small bottle. It cleans well and leaves a great gloss and slickness like if you were using ONR and then following it up with OCW.

What newcomer do you have?!?!?
 
mjlinane said:
Yes. I polished the CQuartz off of my Tiburon and replaced it with Hard Body. Figure I want give it its best chance.
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I can't wait to here your thoughts on all your Wolfs products. I have yet to try them yet. But have seriously considered HB as an upgraded sealant option.
 
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