Sanded down too far...
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Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
I'm sorry your car got keyed. You could polish the base coat which might give it a little bit of shine, but we are talking a 5 percent improvement at best. The only true fix is going to be to have the area repainted, and to do it correctly (I cannot tell if your paint is pearl or metallic) is going to have the whole door repainted
. If it is a difficult color to match they may have to do a light blend into the adjacent panels.
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
It's not a show car or anything. Just trying to get it decent looking to the average person.
CH.Detailing
What's a detail?
My condolences..
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
You can try that, and some highly skilled professionals can do an okay job with spot repair, but in most cases (with a highly skilled professional) the spot is still extremely noticeable.
If you want to give it a shot, lightly sand the area with 600 grit (and feather outward from the mark. Clean the area with pre-paint body solvent and mask off all of your trim and adjacent panels.
Start with a light misting of a light colored primer, maybe add a second coat. Mist a couple of light coats of the base color, doing your best to match the color. (Feather this coat out slightly more than the primer. Finally apply 2 light coats of clear and a final 'wet coat' again on an area slightly larger then the base coat. Let it dry/cure for a couple of days and clean it up with a light sanding (2k-3k grit) and polish.
It probably isn't going to look that great (being honest) but it might look better than what you have now.
Hmm. Maybe I should just let a pro do it... Seems like a lot of trouble to go through in order to only get a semi-ok result if I get lucky.
BobbyG
New member
Lets talk paint.
Allot of variables come into play here; color, age, clear, tints, paint thickness.
The goal was to make the repair disappear or unnoticeable.
Paint ages and with age come fading. This happens to both the color and clear but some color change more than others.
Matching paint is an art and always will be. Combine the base color coat with flakes and tints then add a few costs of clear, some tinted and some not. I think you can appreciate the complexities of paint repair.
Many times I remember having to make a spot repair. Some I was able to fade enough by blending the color back away from the defect far enough then clear the entire panel.
Other times the only way to do it right was to sand and paint the entire side of the car. This way I could guarantee a match because the paint was from one formulation.
Allot of variables come into play here; color, age, clear, tints, paint thickness.
The goal was to make the repair disappear or unnoticeable.
Paint ages and with age come fading. This happens to both the color and clear but some color change more than others.
Matching paint is an art and always will be. Combine the base color coat with flakes and tints then add a few costs of clear, some tinted and some not. I think you can appreciate the complexities of paint repair.
Many times I remember having to make a spot repair. Some I was able to fade enough by blending the color back away from the defect far enough then clear the entire panel.
Other times the only way to do it right was to sand and paint the entire side of the car. This way I could guarantee a match because the paint was from one formulation.
ca.detailchick
New member
I think your right , let a pro do it....Especially that area is highly noticable to start with.Hmm. Maybe I should just let a pro do it... Seems like a lot of trouble to go through in order to only get a semi-ok result if I get lucky.
You could even offer to do some trade detailing work for the paintwork.
Hope you find a good shop.
Sorry that happened to you!
Rocket
New member
I wonder I the whole panel could be sanded and just recleared? I'm no painter so my idea is probably not possible
mikenap
New member
If it is indeed Honda's Taffeta White, that's a single stage paint. Not sure if that matters as far as the current condition, but I would imagine that a repaint with clear will leave it looking distinctly different from the rest of the car.
BIOLINK
Icon Detailing
I've got Taffeta White as well. Yep it's SS alright. I know of a few places in my city who do spot repairs.
Addicted2Bling
New member
Why not just get the whole panel painted? It shouldn't cost too much, just make sure you get the exact same color or else it will look bad
Stokdgs
dansautodetailing.com
Just to help set expectations a little further.
As Bobby G has already said, paint ages and sometimes fades to a different tint.
Having painted before in a couple of high end shops, you would want to insure that the Painter knows how to properly tint the Factory Pack paint to the proper shade of the door, so that minimum blending is needed. He will be doing this by eye, so you want to ask the right questions when you take your car to shops to get estimates.
Single Stage paint will be way easier to duplicate.
Its hard to tell by your pictures to be sure, but it looks like it could be spotted in if the rest of the paint is in good enough condition to be buffed out so that the entire door is the same look-wise.
What he would do is "back tape" around the damage, fog the paint in several thin coats, maybe color sand, maybe not, compound it, compound the door, and you are good to go.
Back Taping is where you have the masking tape attached to the paper, and instead of taping off with the tape in front and the paper behind, you reverse the direction, so the tape is now curved up around the area and the paper is now pulled over the tape, completing the curved area that now covers around the area that will be painted.
When you blow paint into the area to cover the defect, the paint will also blow underneath the curved area of tape and paper, and if you are careful, there will be no definite line of paint build up around the tape and paper.
Cuts down tremendously on the amount of sanding, etc., needed to be done afterwards, and there is no edge of primer and paint build up.
Good luck with this, dont be shy about asking the shop questions about exactly how they would repair this, definitely ask if their Painter is an experienced Journeyman Painter, and how many years has he been doing this? Look at some of his work if possible, look at the shop - is it clean and organized? Is it a disaster area with cars so close together, they are all getting Oversprayed?? You dont really want to get your car back with multiple colors of paint on all your panels AND your glass either..
Good luck with this !
Dan F
As Bobby G has already said, paint ages and sometimes fades to a different tint.
Having painted before in a couple of high end shops, you would want to insure that the Painter knows how to properly tint the Factory Pack paint to the proper shade of the door, so that minimum blending is needed. He will be doing this by eye, so you want to ask the right questions when you take your car to shops to get estimates.
Single Stage paint will be way easier to duplicate.
Its hard to tell by your pictures to be sure, but it looks like it could be spotted in if the rest of the paint is in good enough condition to be buffed out so that the entire door is the same look-wise.
What he would do is "back tape" around the damage, fog the paint in several thin coats, maybe color sand, maybe not, compound it, compound the door, and you are good to go.
Back Taping is where you have the masking tape attached to the paper, and instead of taping off with the tape in front and the paper behind, you reverse the direction, so the tape is now curved up around the area and the paper is now pulled over the tape, completing the curved area that now covers around the area that will be painted.
When you blow paint into the area to cover the defect, the paint will also blow underneath the curved area of tape and paper, and if you are careful, there will be no definite line of paint build up around the tape and paper.
Cuts down tremendously on the amount of sanding, etc., needed to be done afterwards, and there is no edge of primer and paint build up.
Good luck with this, dont be shy about asking the shop questions about exactly how they would repair this, definitely ask if their Painter is an experienced Journeyman Painter, and how many years has he been doing this? Look at some of his work if possible, look at the shop - is it clean and organized? Is it a disaster area with cars so close together, they are all getting Oversprayed?? You dont really want to get your car back with multiple colors of paint on all your panels AND your glass either..
Good luck with this !
Dan F
Alright, I took the plunge and tried fixing it my self. Turned out almost perfect! CERTAINLY much much better than it was. It's only visible at certain angles/lighting conditions. Here's what I did:
Buffed using 3M Rubbing Compound
Polished using 3M Scratch Remover
Clay bar
Washed with rubbing alcohol
Used 3000 Grit 3M Sandpaper
Scotchbrite pad
Washed using alcohol
Carefully taped up along the pin stripe, door handle, etc. (Back taped along the body line and in the middle of the door)
Misted on couple coats of Taffeta White
Lightly sprayed on a couple more coats of Taffeta White until the dark areas were no longer visible
Removed taping
Let dry overnight
Wet sanded with 3M 3000 Grit sandpaper
Buffed using 3M Rubbing Compound
Polished using 3M Scratch Remover
I was only looking to make this invisible to the average person, which I believe I succeeded in doing. I'm sure one of you guys could spot it a mile away with one eye closed and your back turned, but to the layman it's good.
Buffed using 3M Rubbing Compound
Polished using 3M Scratch Remover
Clay bar
Washed with rubbing alcohol
Used 3000 Grit 3M Sandpaper
Scotchbrite pad
Washed using alcohol
Carefully taped up along the pin stripe, door handle, etc. (Back taped along the body line and in the middle of the door)
Misted on couple coats of Taffeta White
Lightly sprayed on a couple more coats of Taffeta White until the dark areas were no longer visible
Removed taping
Let dry overnight
Wet sanded with 3M 3000 Grit sandpaper
Buffed using 3M Rubbing Compound
Polished using 3M Scratch Remover
I was only looking to make this invisible to the average person, which I believe I succeeded in doing. I'm sure one of you guys could spot it a mile away with one eye closed and your back turned, but to the layman it's good.
Old Pirate
AMG Classic Car Detailing
Looks great from your picture, as long no one will notice it you're be fine with it. ( only you know it's there )
mrclean81
New member
Looks good from the pic. Even if its not perfect, you can say you did it yourself, got some experience in the process, and saved a bunch of money.
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Rocket
New member
Good job. I can't even see it in the picture. I might have to try this on a spare part and see how it goes