G9 Cord Question

*Update

The machine took a dump on me today. Calling tomorrow to request a cash refund.

Oh man, you can`t seem to win for losing! And here I thought everything was all squared-away now :(

What happened with it?

Gotta say that the various issues plaguing various RO/DA polishers sure make me appreciate those old Cyclos of mine...
 
Contact them directly.

https://www.griotsgarage.com/category/customer+service/customers+for+life+-+100-+guarantee.do

From their site:
CUSTOMERS FOR LIFE - 100% GUARANTEEAt Griot`s Garage, we want you as a customer for life. Everything you purchase from us comes with a lifetime guarantee against defect. We want you to enjoy our quality product for 180 days and have fun with it! If you don`t like it for any reason during this time, return it for a full refund or credit. After that, you`re covered with our lifetime guarantee against defect, in which we will either repair it, replace it, or credit your purchase price if we are able to do neither. Some items have a life span during normal use and they wear out. Our warranty does not include replacement of such items after normal use. Of course our guarantee doesn`t cover abuse... But you already knew that.
Customers for life. That`s our guarantee.”

I was told today that This isn`t true. All they offer is a store credit (insert pile of crap emoji)
 
Contact them directly.

https://www.griotsgarage.com/category/customer+service/customers+for+life+-+100-+guarantee.do

From their site:
CUSTOMERS FOR LIFE - 100% GUARANTEEAt Griot`s Garage, we want you as a customer for life. Everything you purchase from us comes with a lifetime guarantee against defect. We want you to enjoy our quality product for 180 days and have fun with it! If you don`t like it for any reason during this time, return it for a full refund or credit. After that, you`re covered with our lifetime guarantee against defect, in which we will either repair it, replace it, or credit your purchase price if we are able to do neither. Some items have a life span during normal use and they wear out. Our warranty does not include replacement of such items after normal use. Of course our guarantee doesn`t cover abuse... But you already knew that.
Customers for life. That`s our guarantee.”

I was told today that Thisisn`t true. All they offer is a store credit (insert pile of crap emoji)

While I get you`re frustrated going through the string of troubles you`ve had, I would assume the 180 day trial starts at the purchase of the first product. Am I crazy thinking somewhere I read your original polisher was from 10 years ago, and the G9 was sent to you as a replacement after your original polisher had troubles? If so, they`re honoring their end of their statement by offering you crediting your purchase price (a warranty replacement would fall into the "After that...". My thoughts still come back to my comment earlier:

Not sure I read their policy the same way you do. They say they provide a lifetime guarantee against defect, under which they`ll repair it, replace it, or credit your purchase price if they`re able to do neither. You originally purchased a 6" polisher, which they would offer to replace (unfortunately, again) since they have a product matching that description to replace it with. If you`re that against having a G9, you could ask if they have old stock/refurbished GG6`s to replace your 1st gen model (from your description).

While you`ve had the G9 for less than 30 days, your original purchase price sounds like it was years ago. Reminds me of the car battery warranty situation.
If you buy a car battery with a 6 year warranty with 2 years free replacement, and the battery fails at 1 year 11 months, you get a replacement battery at no cost to you. But, your warranty continues from the day you bought the first one - not when you got the replacement.
...
Just my thoughts.

BadPenny - Sorry again this has been a rough go for you.
 
Contact them directly.

https://www.griotsgarage.com/category/customer+service/customers+for+life+-+100-+guarantee.do

From their site:
CUSTOMERS FOR LIFE - 100% GUARANTEEAt Griot`s Garage, we want you as a customer for life. Everything you purchase from us comes with a lifetime guarantee against defect. We want you to enjoy our quality product for 180 days and have fun with it! If you don`t like it for any reason during this time, return it for a full refund or credit. After that, you`re covered with our lifetime guarantee against defect, in which we will either repair it, replace it, or credit your purchase price if we are able to do neither. Some items have a life span during normal use and they wear out. Our warranty does not include replacement of such items after normal use. Of course our guarantee doesn`t cover abuse... But you already knew that.
Customers for life. That`s our guarantee.”

While I get you`re frustrated going through the string of troubles you`ve had, I would assume the 180 day trial starts at the purchase of the first product. Am I crazy thinking somewhere I read your original polisher was from 10 years ago, and the G9 was sent to you as a replacement after your original polisher had troubles? If so, they`re honoring their end of their statement by offering you crediting your purchase price (a warranty replacement would fall into the "After that...". My thoughts still come back to my comment earlier:

Where does it say purchase date? I read it differently. I`ve had this polisher 2 weeks and am not happy with. I won`t my old unit back or my money
 
If you purchased that unit within the last 180 days you should get your money back. If this unit is a replacement for a unit purchased before that time you are entitled to another polisher or a credit with Griot’s. I further think that it says you are only entitled to the credit if they cannot replace or repair your defective unit. Anyway, that’s the way I read that warranty...
 
If you purchased that unit within the last 180 days you should get your money back. If this unit is a replacement for a unit purchased before that time you are entitled to another polisher or a credit with Griot’s. I further think that it says you are only entitled to the credit if they cannot replace or repair your defective unit. Anyway, that’s the way I read that warranty...

It doesn`t read that way though.
They should amend their warranty if that`s the way they intended it to read.

This machine has been a problem since day 1 and now it`s broken. I have no confidence the next machine will be any better and I don`t want to have to spend $34 in shipping fees every time it breaks.
Call me crazy but sure sounds like this falls under "if you don`t like for any reason"
 
Oh man, you can`t seem to win for losing! And here I thought everything was all squared-away now :(

What happened with it?

Gotta say that the various issues plaguing various RO/DA polishers sure make me appreciate those old Cyclos of mine...

About halfway through a car the machine started pulsating and then suddenly quit all together. I thought I had knocked the cord loose but that wasn`t the case. If you "pump" the trigger long enough it temporarily kicks back on.
They quit supplying replacement brushes so I couldn`t even try that. Dead in the water is where I was. Thank God I keep 6+ other polishers in my trunk!!
 
As for G15 and 21.... the 15 is not on AG or autopia anymore all i could find was the g21. Griots wouldn’t devalue their product by selling it that cheap. In fact 1st time ive seen Griots put them on sale.

I ask a sales rep when i was at Griots and he kinda bobbled around the i dont think so when i asked if the were going to be upgreaded a few weeks ago.

With G8 and G9 supposedly a different manufacturer the are probably switching to that same company. I suggested another thread looks like their gearing down for a switch.

With all the issues with G9 and G8 i suggested to swoop one up. I dont think youll find a better quality ling throw for $225


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It doesn`t read that way though.
They should amend their warranty if that`s the way they intended it to read.

This machine has been a problem since day 1 and now it`s broken. I have no confidence the next machine will be any better and I don`t want to have to spend $34 in shipping fees every time it breaks.
Call me crazy but sure sounds like this falls under "if you don`t like for any reason"

Wow man, we`re really going in circles here.

Their guarantee: Everything you purchase from us comes with a lifetime guarantee against defect. We want you to enjoy our quality product for 180 days and have fun with it! If you don`t like it for any reason during this time, return it for a full refund or credit. After that, you`re covered with our lifetime guarantee against defect, in which we will either repair it, replace it, or credit your purchase price if we are able to do neither. Some items have a life span during normal use and they wear out. Our warranty does not include replacement of such items after normal use. Of course our guarantee doesn`t cover abuse... But you already knew that.

Starting at the top -
They`re offering a lifetime guarantee against DEFECT. Not a lifetime return policy.

They give you 180 days to try it and see if you like it. If you don`t like it in that 180 days, you can get your money back or get a credit. If you don`t take advantage of that, you fall under: AFTER THAT

After that, you`re covered against defects. Your original polisher had some sort of defect, so they held up their end of the bargain - since they weren`t going to repair it, they provided you a replacement that is their current equivalent of what you purchased 10 years ago. By their declaration, they will credit your purchase price if they can`t fix what you had or send you something to replace it. (Again, the G9 is their current replacement for the old GG6`s, so there ya go).

Just because you`ve had the replacement for the polisher you purchased years ago for less than 180 days, by common logic (and I don`t think I`m stretching my reading of their policy,) you still fall under "After that".

Yes, it sucks you`re having problems with your polisher. Based on your review from when it was working:

Now that the cord issue is solved the machine seems pretty decent. Very well balanced and more power then ever needed. I`m digging the trigger vs the old style on/off switch. I also like how you can set the machine upside down when not in use. Surprised no one else has done this.

Definitely harder then I would expect to insert the cord. I`m not sure if it will wear-in or break. Fortunately it comes with the lifetime warranty.

:headspin

It seems like you did like the machine and it would be worth it to you to just get another machine from Griot`s (fortunately the lifetime warranty and all). Especially since you have 6 other polishers to get you by.

About halfway through a car the machine started pulsating and then suddenly quit all together. I thought I had knocked the cord loose but that wasn`t the case. If you "pump" the trigger long enough it temporarily kicks back on.
They quit supplying replacement brushes so I couldn`t even try that. Dead in the water is where I was. Thank God I keep 6+ other polishers in my trunk!!

Check the mesh bag that came with your G9. Anywhere you look it shows the G9 comes with a replacement set of brushes in the box.

Talked with customer service today. Indeed they did have a problem with the 10` cords initially but that was suppose to be cleared up.
Supposedly they`ve never heard of anyone having problems with the 25` cord until now.
I was told that I would be receiving a prepaid mailing label within 48 hours.

You mention worrying about having to spend $34 dollars to ship the machine each time, but say that they send you a prepaid mailing label. This has been my experience with them in the past. (I bought early run of their BOSS foaming cannon, which they revamped to provide better foam on smaller pressure washers - I had no actual complaints with my cannon, but they offered to swap it out at no cost since I asked about it; also when my original 1st gen polisher had a very minor issue they sent me a label to return it - they then sent me a 3rd gen GG6 which was their current offering of the time).


In the end, again I`m bummed for your sake you`re having a bad string of luck on this deal. But, I feel you`re reading their policy wanting it to give you what you want. Devils advocate, it`s pretty generous of them to have such a warranty on an electrical tool that they can only imagine what sort of life it`s been through (undersized power cords, weather conditions, etc). It`s safe to say an electrical tool could fall under the category of "Some items have a lifespan during normal use and they wear out.". What kind of love would you get from Rupes or Flex after 3+ years? And those tools cost more than the Griot`s tool in question here.

Personal example - I fix cars by trade. I had bought a Snap On 3/8" impact (for 4x the price of a GG6). 2 months before it`s warranty was up, I had to send it in for repair because it was clearly down on power. Fast forward that exact time frame again, (but now out of warranty), same issue comes up. It wore out during use. No love from Snap On on fixing it again (would have had to pay repair cost out of pocket), and not much love for trading it in on the next impact.

Instead of getting another Snap On, I bought a Milwaukee with a 5 year warranty. If I had to get this one warrantied, and had problems in the 5 year window with the replacement, I wouldn`t go complain on a forum on Carmechanicopia.com, I`d contact them directly (via phone as there`s no delay in communication that way).


Sorry if I`m coming off as salty here, but you`re saying stuff that just doesn`t line up.
 
Wow man, we`re really going in circles here.

They give you 180 days to try it and see if you like it. If you don`t like it in that 180 days, you can get your money back or get a credit. If you don`t take advantage of that, you fall under: AFTER THAT

Sorry if I`m coming off as salty here, but you`re saying stuff that just doesn`t line up.


First you don`t have to apologize to me but thank you.
I appreciate your point of view but from my vantage point this I see this different.
My original griots was a beast. I ran that machine just about everyday for many years. I expect if there is a replacement that it would be built even better. My feelings are that it isnt and I am safely in the 180 window of "loving their machine". If they can`t return my old unit (rebuilt) then I should get my money back is the way I see it.
None of their other products do I use so a store credit doesn`t help.
 
I think oneheadlight explained it as well as can be. We know you are disappointed with your options, but what he said makes sense to me.

Keep in mind you`re not up a creek without a paddle, you still have two options available to you.

1, another G-9 machine immediately, or 2, store credit, which I assume is for the purchase amount of a G9, or other product(s) of equal value.

IMO, what I see is a tool, that in its infancy with this new manufacturer, has bugs that need working out. I`d assume Griots is working hard to alleviate and correct any and all issues.

I myself, if it were me, I might be inclined to take Griots Garage up on their store credit. Of what time frame allowed for this option, I would assume indefinite, but please don`t quote me on this.

Since you have other tools to get by for now, I`d maybe hang tight, sleep on such, maybe wait a few months longer or so to try another G-9, or purchase other items with your store credit.

Hope this helps.
 
Where does it say that?

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“Everything from Griots comes with lifetime warrantee against defects”.

“We want you to enjoy our quality product for 180 days and have fun with it! If you don`t like it for any reason during this time, return it for a full refund or credit. After that, you`re covered with our lifetime guarantee against defect, in which we will either repair it, replace it, or credit your purchase price if we are able to do neither”

Want you to enjoy for 180 days. You’ve had your gg6 for what 5-9 years? To have a product for that long 98% of companies would of been done with you and you wouldve bought a new polisher.

The exchanged it.... you werent happy they offered you a store credit.... to get anything from Griots. Where else would give you wven that option. You want your money back when you got more than your moneys worth from your gg6.

To me , and again my view point, it’s like taking your christmas tree back to Costco January 4th because its dying. You’ve gotten your use out of it.

I understand your not happy with g9 but i personally think griots is being more than gracious with store credit for as long as you’ve had had the original.

In fact if you were having warranty problems with ALL other poilishers after this amount of time this thread would be dead and you woulda had to buy a new polisher.....

Just my thoughts but i do really hope it works out for you and your get satisfactory end results.


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I mean no offense with this comment but in all honesty I don’t get it. This conversation is going on a couple of pages now basically addressing how one interprets a warranty. Do people really buy a piece of electrical equipment and believe that a one time purchase means you have a working polisher for life? That would be renting the tool and not buying it, renting a tool for the same period of time would cost several multiples of what buying the same tool would cost. I think there is a huge difference between earning a lifetime customer and from that statement, extrapolating or interpreting that to mean that an electrical tool will last and be warrantied for a lifetime. Just sayin..

It’s part of life, can’t stop rust, days pass by and electrical equipment wears out. Parts wearing out isn’t what is included in the warranty. From everything thing I’ve read there have been no known across the board defects with the GG6. Wear and tear, all which should be expected is not a manufacturers defect. Griot’s apparently warrantied the OP’s GG6 in this case as a customer satisfaction warranty. The way I understand it that’s going above and beyond the warranty for the GG6 and I think that’s big of them. Should Griot’s have told the OP to pound sand at that point we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Now having said all this I personally have a Black and Decker drill and a Skill Saw that were my father’s, both manufactured in the 70’s that run to this day. I’m sure Accumulator could tell you much the same about a well used Cyclo or two. It happens but these are exceptions to the rule. I understand the part about getting a sour taste in your mouth and not wanting to own a G9 again, I really do but you may have just received a lemon. Have them replace it, get the credit, find something else you can use or find something on their site and sell it and move on. If you can’t see yourself doing this, send it my way. :) Anyway... life is good.
 
I bought my first polisher from the Griots rep in Portland in June of 2015, GG3. Bought the GG6 in Sept 15. By then I was hooked on detailing. Bought the G-15 when it first came out. A year after buying the G-15 I had an issue with the unit and because I live with a 2 hr. drive from the Griots store in Tacoma I took the G-15 to their store and they inspected the machine, decided there was a problem, cut the cord off and gave me a new G-15...no questions. I bought the G9 as soon as their buy back program came out and have done 6 cars with the G9 with no issues. I bought the G8 on their buy back program and have used it on 2 of the last 6 cars with no issues. The nice feature is I can use just use one cord and when I need the G9 is just unplug the G8 and plug in the G9. Both the new machines work flawlessly. I don`t use all of Griots products but I have just completed 140 vehicles and 1 RV and I can rely on Griots products without hesitation.
 
This conversation is going on a couple of pages now basically addressing how one interprets a warranty.

I know! Can`t understand why y`all can`t see this my way. Let me try this:

It costs $34 to ship back n forth (plus the hassle and down time). The guy didn`t want to give me free shipping (after only 2 weeks of use) but finally agreed to that. If I hadn`t raised cane he would have had me pay shipping again. I would have had $68 tied up in shipping (nearly half the value of the unit ~ the entire cost of similar harbor freight unit + 2 year warranty and the store is 3 miles away.) at that point. From a business standpoint you have to start weighing "is this worth it". Especially considering the luck that I have had with this improved model. I have no confidence the next unit will perform any better and the shipping is eating my lunch if I have spend $34 every 2 weeks ...



I bought my first polisher from the Griots rep in Portland in June of 2015, GG3. Bought the GG6 in Sept 15. By then I was hooked on detailing. Bought the G-15 when it first came out. A year after buying the G-15 I had an issue with the unit and because I live with a 2 hr. drive from the Griots store in Tacoma I took the G-15 to their store and they inspected the machine, decided there was a problem, cut the cord off and gave me a new G-15...no questions. I bought the G9 as soon as their buy back program came out and have done 6 cars with the G9 with no issues. I bought the G8 on their buy back program and have used it on 2 of the last 6 cars with no issues. The nice feature is I can use just use one cord and when I need the G9 is just unplug the G8 and plug in the G9. Both the new machines work flawlessly. I don`t use all of Griots products but I have just completed 140 vehicles and 1 RV and I can rely on Griots products without hesitation.
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I was a big fan for many years. Suggested to many people to purchase the gg6 over the years. Had this new model performed like my previous I would still be there.

You polished 140 cars and a rv (or 6) with this new unit?

I’ve heard griots went away from Max Shine building their polishers. Wonder who new manufacturer is. If you were thinking g9 maybe get a g15 their clearing out. These older versions seem to be built like tanks and at $224 their a steal.


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Why spend $224 when you can buy a maxshine for $90?
 
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