ALL tire dressings cause dry rot/premature tire failure ???!!!

Don

Don

Darth Camaro 12/27/15
I have been shopping for tires for the Camaro and have gone a few different places to have them evaluate my current tires to see if they are is as bad of shape as I think. Yesterday, I went to a huge, non-chain tire store and after being asked just how much dressing I used on the tires (I applied a thin layer of Meguiar`s Endurance Gel last Sunday and it still looks freshly applied), they told me that ALL tire dressings cause damage, typically dry-rot, prematurely.

Now I know that some of the older dressings from the 70`s and 80`s have a bad rep, but I thought most modern dressings no longer had that issue, with some working to protect the rubber. I for one can say that I`ve never had that issue (that I can remember), but then I always wore the tire out before they would get to the point where dry rot started, but now I`m starting to wonder.

So what`s the general opinion on modern tire/rubber dressings?


BTW, my current tires ARE severely dry rotted!
 
I am not a tire guru but
My observations are the silicone type dressings
Cracked my side walls. Have not had the issue with water based dressings. The downside to water based dressings is lack of durability.

I think the apc scrubbing the brown off tires is equally if not more harmful.
 
Hey Don, I also have a camaro and use tire dressing ( tire wet ) about once a month
But i have zero dry rot, do you have p zero tires.
 
This is an interesting thread to me because I`ve definitely seen this issue on tires that live outdoors. I`ve certainly had sidewall cracking with water based dressings, as quickly as two years. I`ve also seen very old tires that haven`t been dressed that don`t have any cracking and they`ve been on completely neglected vehicles.
 
Strong66 said:
Hey Don, I also have a camaro and use tire dressing ( tire wet ) about once a month
But i have zero dry rot, do you have p zero tires.
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No, I have an LS, so I have the BFG T/A spec tires. They have 63,400 miles on them and they are the factory original (2013 Camaro)
 
Out of my literally countless tires, I`ve only had *ONE* case of dry-rot/cracking/other such stuff. That was on a vehicle that was outside 24/7 and those tires were *not* treated for most of their lives (the Volvo I inherited in trashed condition). I have tires from the `80s (no, don`t drive on `em, probably won`t except maybe for a concours..the oe ones for the Jag) that have been treated with water-based dressings since new and they`re still just fine.
 
I`ve got T/A radials on my Camino and the fronts have been on since 2004, rears since about 2010. In my pre-forum days I used nothing but No Touch. For the past 8-9 years, they`ve worn Meg`s Gold Class, UTTG and Perl. No aging signs at all.

Bill
 
I`ve been wondering about this - as the fact that while tire coatings last longer....they also *seal* in more
I have one tire have premature dry rot ? No rhyme or reason, and I`ve never seen dry rot within the life of the tire - 18 months or so.....

Anyhow, chalked it up to a fluke and have sofar, no issues on any rubber..
 
Billy Jack said:
I`ve got T/A radials on my Camino and the fronts have been on since 2004, rears since about 2010. In my pre-forum days I used nothing but No Touch. For the past 8-9 years, they`ve worn Meg`s Gold Class, UTTG and Perl. No aging signs at all.

Bill
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I`ve used mainly Meg`s Hot Rims Tire Shine and more recently switched to Meg`s Endurance Gel ... which I`m really starting to like.
 
Just an alternative thought--------Check the tire manufacture date on the tire. Sometimes tires sit on a rack for months before they are sold--if they are a high dollar tire or a odd size they may sit longer than that. I`m not an expert either but the problem may be with the tire/rubber compound and not the "gel or coating" you are applying. I`ve had trailer tires for 5-6 years+ that have been outside (although they were covered when not in use) that did not crack. They also had Meg 40 put on them every time the trailer was washed.
Jay
 
re: post #10, tire are very important for me....some buy the cheapest PRC tire they can get.....others value the 4 things that hold you to the road. I always check codes before I even pay, shooting for 1 year or less. Sometimes it`s a non-mover high volume, as most of my tire are low prof. summer tars - and then there are Nokian`s for the white seasons...
 
Hey Don

My car is also a 2013 with original tires, 25000 on the p zeros, and time for a new set

Definitely strange, maybe tire compound related.
 
Ronkh said:
From my understanding..... Tires now "expire" in 5 years.......
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Yes, few tire dealers want to touch any tires older than that. It`s not however a change in the way tires are manufactured, but a change brought on by lawsuits, more to the point ambulance chasing lawyers (no offense to any lawyers in here). It ridiculous for lawyers to say all tires go bad after 3-5 years, there are too many variables that cause tires to age. It`s kind of like saying no cars are safe to be on the road after 100,000 miles.
 
DaveT435 said:
Yes, few tire dealers want to touch any tires older than that. It`s not however a change in the way tires are manufactured, but a change brought on by lawsuits, more to the point ambulance chasing lawyers (no offense to any lawyers in here). It ridiculous for lawyers to say all tires go bad after 3-5 years, there are too many variables that cause tires to age. It`s kind of like saying no cars are safe to be on the road after 100,000 miles.
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Agree with you, this is nothing more than lawyers, and the people that sell tires are happy to oblige. My Vette is parked in a garage and has about 5k miles on the 6 year old tires. They still hook up as good or bad as the day they were new. I`ve had some tires get rock hard and dangerous after 3-4 years on my old Tundra. I`m actually surprised tire date hasn`t become a check in some states on annual safety inspections.
 
weather is probably the biggest factor out side of the actual tire compound. Winters with all the chemicals they put down on roads is terrible for tires and cars alike, summers down south in the ridiculous heat and the hot as the surface of the sun pavement also very bad.
 
I think the most damage comes from using too strong of a tire cleaner. For example the LATA apc. I see lots of people using it, but for me it seem to continuously leach out the good stuff in the tire like it was the dirtiest tire in the world. You just want to clean the surface and that`s it. If you see it drawing stuff out of a tire that was not that dirty to begin with it is probably not a good choice for a tire cleaner.

So too strong a cleaner and then strong sun exposure after you`ve leached all the protective substances out of the tire surface.


Not all APC`s are the same. Tuff-Shine and M37 tire cleaners are ones that only clean the surface. I also like using Shine Supply Wise Guy tire cleaner also.
 
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