Zymol's New Porsche Glaze Glasur...

TW85 HHI said:
It does cost too much, LOL. It could/may be the ultimate in appearance but is a wax really worth $450?
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It may to some people. As was stated earlier that marketing/advertising can do wonders for business.
 
I'm tempted, but I am hooked on my Concours..............this is a bad habit folks. If the wallet gets too strained next year....well....nah I'll suffer. Problem is, I can only afford Zymol for ONE car!!!!! The beater will just have to make due with P21S/S100, even though that wax is good as well. Is Zymol better...........I'd rather not say since I like both waxes, but you should try it to find out for yourself.



Word to the wise......don't get hooked on Zymol................Real Zymol!!



BTW: Its more than marketing.............try it if you dare!
 
A little better than 9 coats. I am a waxaholic though, so you know that my wallet hurts every year! Zymol told me though, that I won't need more than 5 coats to get the optimal resolution from the wax. I have found though, that if the wax is put on properly, and stretched thoroughly (I like to say stretch, but I really mean buffed to a shine), and if you use a good QD at a minimum of between every third coat, that you can get greatttttt!! body and volume from Concours without sacrificing clarity and dealing with haze and streaks that is common with having a lot of wax on your car.



However (sorry for the read), Concours' magic numbers in terms of the applications (layerings....or deposits for the nay sayers) are 3 coats, 7 coats, and 9 coats being your goal if its layered right.
 
Does anybody have any comparison pics?I have a client that price is no issue to getting the deepest/wetest look possible on his black boat.
 
Awwh must you make me admit that???? Two times a year. My wax bill is a secret. You really do not need that much wax (especially with Zymol, bc the concentration of carnauba is higher than most waxes, so you will see results immediately).



Ok, now a lot of people have said that Zymol doesn't last. I have found it to be the opposite in my case. Let me explain why. First of all, the car is (was covered), but it had to sit outside and endure the rain, snow, etc. In the winter, after my wax season ended in november, I kept the wax residue until April this year when I stripped it off and started new! I have found, even with my beater, that if you let carnauba dry a little, and slowly compound coatings over a wax season (spring-summer), that you can ride out the winter without adding more wax.



If the car is an outsider and it falls under rain, and especially if you don't wash it weekly, then your wax will suffer. It will still be there, but you will get less beading, and in the winter, you may see some cloudiness after a good snow/ice/rainstorm. However, that was with a cheaper carnauba, so I've yet to see the Zymol get the full brunt of an unprotected winter.



In the summer, once I hit three (slowly applied) applications, I am in good shape; And when I hit seven coats of my favorite wax, then there's no looking back!
 
It will be a little hard to compare waxes by photos. It is because you won't really know what start point each car is at. I'd say that you would have to start each car off with the same prep routine, and add one to two coats of the competing waxes. Then do a side by side, in person observation, and follow it with really good digital pics. You will get a pretty good idea that way as to the better performing wax, particularly with the in person comparison.
 
I have some new photos in my gallery. I tried putting pics in my threads, but they were rejected bc of the file size. I have several that I've added recently though under my gallery. Check em out!!!!!
 
Having used the Concourse, it does produce a very nice finish, but it is very time and labour intensive with applying by hand ( which is very theraputic by the way ) and multiple buffings required. Considering I can apply some Souveran, wipe it off and have a finish the equal, if not superior to the Concourse without the hassles of re-buffing 3 or 4 times and paying over 3 times the amount for the privilige, I dont understand why people would bother with it unless they had a show car with no concerns about durability or prices?!?



And here in Australia, acid rain is unheard of so atmospheric conditions it is exposed to are minimal and the best my friends friend said he got was 1-2, possibly 3 weeks at a strech. Its very slick initially, but it fades dramatically after a week and a bit. Not good enough in my book for the $ you pay.



And personally, I dont believe that wax can be layered, but thats another thread and another argument....:)
 
lbls1,

Do you like Concours? I am almost done with my Destiny was considering Concours. I am also considering the sampler kit that has Concours, Destiny and Atlantique (spelling). Destiny goes on easy and come off very easy.
 
~One manâ€â„¢s opinion / observations~



Special Waxes:

The claim that certain waxes are formulated and / or manufactured for specific paint types, paint colours or made specifically for a certain vehicle marquee or that they are matched to particular characteristics of individual paint systems has absolutely no factual basis, it is merely marketing hype.



Zymol probably have the highest Carnauba wax content [by volume] than most other waxes. Apart from there marketing claims I think their glaze type waxes are amongst the best



~Hope this helps~



Knowledge unshared is experience wasted [each one / teach one]

justadumbarchitect / so I question everything/ JonM
 
bimmer330 said:
lbls1,

Do you like Concours? I am almost done with my Destiny was considering Concours. I am also considering the sampler kit that has Concours, Destiny and Atlantique (spelling). Destiny goes on easy and come off very easy.
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I love that stuff friend! I am somewhat envious of you since Destiny and Atlantique has 100% White (that's right, I said white nay sayers!................pale yellow carnauba leaves :p ) carnauba. Like I said once before, I held Zymol in contempt as recently as two years ago. When I tried Concours and saw how that wax literally animated the texture of my paint, I was hooked. I will not use anything else.



I was thinking though, that I may try a sampler kit with Destiny or Atlantique (sp). I am afraid of doing that, because I know how much those waxes cost. I feel, quality wise, that Concours exceeds my expectations in terms of quality in a waxed finish, and it is a wax that I can (very barely) manage to maintain buying. Add to it, I am a firm believer in not mixing other waxes, so as to maintain a consistent finish (one of my pet peeves).



Edit: to address above, yes Concours takes effort. I feel that given the results, Concours justifies the effort required to achieve the finish. I don't rush....I take my time, and buff it off in steps. Zymol even tells you that in buffing it off, you should use "no" assertive pressure. You should use two to three clean buffing towels, and take it off in stages. This is a wax that must be tuned, as an analogy to the timeless classics of yesteryear; Those cars were nightmares in terms of maintenance and tuning and attention, but would they run and purr and growl once tuned and ready! Sorry for the read everyone!
 
Here I go again, but isn't this a replay of the silliest of threads?



Let's rate our priorities:



1. Kids are dying in Iraq

2. Tom Brokaw retired.

3. We can buy a wax worth $450?



That's all I learned today...



Jim
 
Jimmy Buffit said:
Here I go again, but isn't this a replay of the silliest of threads?



Let's rate our priorities:



1. Kids are dying in Iraq

2. Tom Brokaw retired.

3. We can buy a wax worth $450?



That's all I learned today...



Jim
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Thank you for taking the time to reply "to the silliest of threads".
 
This application by hand seems silly to me. I did that once on my prior Lexus using the Zymol NSX wax and the results were not great and all that happened was I had to clean my hands.



I think that application technique is just marketing BS in order to differentiate the product.



Think about what we Autopians accept as fact: thinner wax coats are better...does anyone believe one's hand can put a thinner coat on better than an applicator? I don't.
 
Silliest of threads---undoubtably--haven't we been thru this before

Zymol has some decent products but has more marketing hype and jive.

If you have a garage queen, go for it....I do and I still think Zymol's a waste of $$.
 
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