Zymol Vintage and Royale

Collinite is in a similar camp as,say, Kano Labs'products, industrial background,no need to focus as much on an image to a consumer. Their packaging and graphics work as-is to most who use it. As you say, "no nonsense". Packaging as a whole isn't totally about "suckering" people. In fact, large companies spend quite a bit of money to appease the preferences consumers have for packaging. The better ones wind up creating packaging people want. The car care world is probably a bit different. Sometimes attempts at too creative packaging, even the great like Coca-Cola have done, backfire.



Sorry to all for the following of-topic tangent:



PJ, M&C, etc have recently packaged bottles in fancy keepsake tins. Maybe enough consumers reacted favorably to introducing them, so they gave it a whirl. I have a PJ container that sits in the pantry collecting dust but it's nicer than other containers one could spend decent money on. I admit though, I decorated one of my kitchen nook walls with a framed lithrograph of that famous Grace Kelly Taittinger ad. There was also a really nice vintage cigar one I just came across I wish I had more room to accompany it with.



I save some of those cigar tube actually, but I personally have never purchased a cigar based only on the tube it came in. It's really so hit or miss about whether it can be a hallmark of quality, I think for the most part, many cigar brands just use them to differentiate a certain line from another in their lineup- they don't necessary designate them as being top-tier. I've been smoking some really nice cigars lately that taste as good, sometimes a bit better than others that cost three times the amount. Cigars, like wine, are a great trial-and-error hobby with the price points all over the board. I do so sparingly. It is difficult to keep up after a while.
 
This is great feedback guys !



I have searched YouTube although I am struggling to find something that sheets quite like zymol's high end waxes !



I just have to opportunity of buying a sample and wanted to get some thoughts. Like you say it's very subjective !



I really like vic concours though ! It's so nice an I own glasur which is probably my best wax I think.
 
Vintage is hard to beat. The warm glow that you get with just a couple of coats is jaw dropping. The durability is also very good compared to other waxes, as long as you let the coats cure overnight before reapplying. It's certainly a wax that isn't the easiest, or quickest to use, but the look is phenomenal. There are several other wax companies who try to make boutique waxes, but they always fail. Through my eyes they look muted, and don't have that warm look that Vintage gives. In fact I used to put it on my old car every time I washed it, and it would shed water like a nano coating. It's obviously expensive, but if you use it in your business you could probably charge a pretty penny for it. Not to mention, the jar is HUGE. In 3 years I'm only half way through it, as it's made to be put on THIN. If you don't want to pony up the bucks for Vintage, pick up a jar of Glasur, or Concours and some HD Cleanse, and it will give you a taste. After you've had a taste you'll start saving your pennies.
 
JJ_ said:
What higher end waxes are you guys favouring ?
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Eh, the closest I've ever come to "higher end" is Souveran; it just happens to look *exactly* like I want on the Jag so that ended my search for the grail.



Honestly, if you don't mind spending whatever that sample's gonna cost, I'd go ahead and try it. IMO you simply won't know what you think until you have first-hand experience. Once you've tried it yourself, all this talk will probably be meaningless to you one way or the other ;)
 
I agree John .... Vintage gives a awesome look...



JohnKleven said:
Vintage is hard to beat. The warm glow that you get with just a couple of coats is jaw dropping. The durability is also very good compared to other waxes, as long as you let the coats cure overnight before reapplying. It's certainly a wax that isn't the easiest, or quickest to use, but the look is phenomenal. There are several other wax companies who try to make boutique waxes, but they always fail. Through my eyes they look muted, and don't have that warm look that Vintage gives. In fact I used to put it on my old car every time I washed it, and it would shed water like a nano coating. It's obviously expensive, but if you use it in your business you could probably charge a pretty penny for it. Not to mention, the jar is HUGE. In 3 years I'm only half way through it, as it's made to be put on THIN. If you don't want to pony up the bucks for Vintage, pick up a jar of Glasur, or Concours and some HD Cleanse, and it will give you a taste. After you've had a taste you'll start saving your pennies.
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The warm glo I get from victoria wax is pretty jaw dropping too - especially when I consider how much I saved compared to the zymol products. lol
 
Victoria makes a fine wax !! I really love messing around with my car so that is why I invested in Vintage. It has gone up in price since I bought mine. So enjoy what you do and do what you enjoy.





alag said:
The warm glo I get from victoria wax is pretty jaw dropping too - especially when I consider how much I saved compared to the zymol products. lol
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alag said:
The warm glo I get from victoria wax is pretty jaw dropping too - especially when I consider how much I saved compared to the zymol products. lol
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I never quite understood comments like these. Someone gets comfort from thinking they saved a few pennies? Is that like Schadenfreude?



Most people who spend this sort of coin could care less what it costs. They just want the best.



If you can deliver a 9-10 with this product awhen all else are 8-10 then you make the sale. Note I said deliver, and not promise.



So yes, the extra point is worth the extra coin for those who have it. If you don't have it, then you don't understand.



When you want the best, cost doesn't come into it. Do you get comfort and pleasure driving your Hyundai, knowing how much money you saved against someone's Bugatti ? Only if you do get comfort from a cheap wax compared to Zymol.



The Zymol I have in my firdge wasn't $1,000. At the time it was very good. But my favourite is PS. I have used more jars of it than any other wax.



But I will try this super expensive Zymol. I liked the way it was put on with your hands.



Rubbing that Ferrari with your hands and that $1,500 wax, was like making love to his wife. I wouldn't let you near my Ferrari or my Wife. LOL.



Those two are for my rubbing only. LOL (But you did a good job on the car, I just don't let anyone get that intimate with my possessions or ladies.)
 
What is PS?



If you want to have a good idea about zymol, I would start with concours or glasur.



However, the more I think about it and the more I feel like vintage is not THAT PRICEY.



is it really 22 oz ? for 2200$ ? so that's 11oz for 1100$..with refill of a price of like 200$ if I,m not mistaken. Or you can get Crystal Rock for 6.7oz for 1500$ with no refill.



Tell me which is cheaper? The initial price is high but vintage is actually cheaper than most high-end wax. However, I havent tried vintage but I have a feeling glasur and vintage will be quite similar, one has 56% nuba the other 60%. I know it's not by volume but still..
 
Akustic said:
PS = Pinnacle Soveran

correct?
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make sens!



I agree, the wet-looking givin by this wax is no bullsh... it's real... but suck that theres no way to improve the durability.



I hate to apply this wax on customer's car because it wont last..
 
What's not to understand?



Now, if you are implying that I or someone doesn't have THE extra coin because they choose Victoria Wax over Zymol I feel sorry for you, LOL. But then again, that is the opinion of most people who really don't have the COIN.









Mirror said:
I never quite understood comments like these. Someone gets comfort from thinking they saved a few pennies? Is that like Schadenfreude?



Most people who spend this sort of coin could care less what it costs. They just want the best.



If you can deliver a 9-10 with this product awhen all else are 8-10 then you make the sale. Note I said deliver, and not promise.



So yes, the extra point is worth the extra coin for those who have it. If you don't have it, then you don't understand.



When you want the best, cost doesn't come into it. Do you get comfort and pleasure driving your Hyundai, knowing how much money you saved against someone's Bugatti ? Only if you do get comfort from a cheap wax compared to Zymol.



The Zymol I have in my firdge wasn't $1,000. At the time it was very good. But my favourite is PS. I have used more jars of it than any other wax.



But I will try this super expensive Zymol. I liked the way it was put on with your hands.



Rubbing that Ferrari with your hands and that $1,500 wax, was like making love to his wife. I wouldn't let you near my Ferrari or my Wife. LOL.



Those two are for my rubbing only. LOL (But you did a good job on the car, I just don't let anyone get that intimate with my possessions or ladies.)
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I wonder how many people would wager the cost of a jar of whatever wax if I was to do 1/2 their car with something in the $50 range vs expensive wax. I doubt many people could tell a difference. Since I've been doing my cars half and half lately, I totally admit to being influenced more by psychological factor than anything else.
 
Id have to be worth over 100M to spend that amount of coin on a wax. I felt guilty when I picked up Pete's 53 for $27 plus shipping, or P21s Concourse for about the same amount.
 
KneeDragr said:
Id have to be worth over 100M to spend that amount of coin on a wax. I felt guilty when I picked up Pete's 53 for $27 plus shipping, or P21s Concourse for about the same amount.
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I've known some pretty wealthy folks who like a beautifully shiny car but would certainly balk at the Zymol prices. Yep, Pete's and the P21s price point would be getting towards their limit.
 
alag said:
What's not to understand?



Now, if you are implying that I or someone doesn't have THE extra coin because they choose Victoria Wax over Zymol I feel sorry for you, LOL. But then again, that is the opinion of most people who really don't have the COIN.
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I never said anything about anyone's station in life. It was clear what I didn't understand. I will say it again.

I don't understand how someone gets comfort from thinking that they saved money buying a cheap wax.



You were comforted by the thought that someone bought a Very expensive wax and you bought a cheap one. I Still don't get it.



: "I get a warm Glow,......... especially when I consider how much I saved compared to the zymol products. lol "
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You may not care that someone bought an expensive one (Nor should you) but How does it give you a warm Glow because you bought the cheap one and someone else didn't?



My point wasn't that you did or didn't have money. But rather, either you are a tight a$$, or you have schadenfreude, Comfort in your perception of others pain.

(They are the only two conclusions I can draw........and if neither are correct......then I say again I don't UNDERSTAND.)



Do you perceive the people that bought the expensive wax to have pain and that gives you pleasure? I say agian I don't understand. As I do not feel they are in pain, rather they are most likely feeling rather pleased with themselves as they made a prestigeous purchase and enjoyed spoiling their obvious passion.



If it gives you pleasure and comfort, in that you think they were hosed by the amount they paid, and you weren't because you bought a bargin basement wax...well each to his own...But I still do not understand that line of thinking. Its regardless whether you can afford it or not. I made no inferrences that you may or may not be able to afford it, only that I never understood your line of thinking. To quote another phrase.....Rich and Tight is still Tight.



P.S. LOL Yes P.S. is Pinnacle Souveran. : )
 
Bill D said:
I've known some pretty wealthy folks who like a beautifully shiny car but would certainly balk at the Zymol prices. Yep, Pete's and the P21s price point would be getting towards their limit.
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I know some poor teenagers that will drop $200 on wax, and do their vehicle that is barely worth $5,000. But really neither of those two scenarios have anything to do with the Zymol. There most certainly is a market for high end waxes. There is always a market for Hi-End products, and always people who will buy them.



Not always wealthy people either. You don't have to be wealthy to buy expensive wax. But it just so happens that people who own expensive cars and like to keep them shiny, tend to not worry about things like the cost of wax. Well I don't. Show me something BETTER and I will use it. I never said Show me something as good and Cheaper. I just want better. It has always been my experience in life that

cheaper is NEVER better. On the flip side, I have usually found that the most expensive one, is usually the best one. Not 100% always, but often enough to convince me.
 
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