Zymol Royale question

Weak?? Hardly! Fill him in Superbee.



But, yes..........its main prowess is in its ability to produce a brilliant finish.
 
Harry Houdini said:
From what I understand from you and Superbee is that this Wax is just weak in protection and its only job is to make a car looks wet and great finish.

the durability is a month? wow that is even lower than the clamed 6 month of protection!
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Weak? I don't think so! Each spring, I HD Cleanse and LSP with Vintage. Wait 1 week and another layer Vintage. Wait 2 weeks and then another layer. Wait 4 weeks and then another layer. Then I do it monthly after that.



Using this process, I can do a Zymol Clear or an ONR wash as needed and water will still bead after 4 winter months of no futher applications of Vintage. Bird droppings will easily come off with a moistened MF towel.



IMHO, Vintage is VERY durable.
 
lbls1 said:
Weak?? Hardly! Fill him in Superbee.



But, yes..........its main prowess is in its ability to produce a brilliant finish.
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I'm gonna copy and paste this one. :)



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It's been an ongoing thing, trying to determine whether or not the Vintage was worth the huge hole it shot in my wallet. Today, the verdict was finally turned in: The stuff really is worth every penny.



As I've said before, Zaino was my primary LSP prior to the Vintage. I loved the look and the durability, but I hated Zaino when it came time to wash the car. The stuff holds on to dirt, water spots, and surface contaminants like craaaazy. The bond between Zaino and dirt often seemed as hard as the bond between the Zaino and the paint. It was always necessary to wash a Zaino finish with an MF mitt to get the car completely clean. So one of the primary determinants for Vintage's worth was seeing how well it releases dirt, etc from the paint during a car wash. So I used my Wife's Sequoia as a guinea pig for this experiment. I didn't wash it for two weeks. During that time, it saw 800 miles in travel (we took a road trip down to southern Utah and back) and numerous driving rain storms, and one of the worst wind storms (with the accompanying dust/dirt) I've ever driven through.



The car was an absolute mess. It had water spots, dirt, dust, bugs, road grime, fresh road oil on it... just about every type of contaminant save maybe tree sap. I have never let this vehicle get this dirty in the two years we've owned it. I could hardly bear to look at it.



Today I ran it through a touchless car wash. Afterward, it looked like I had just finished wiping off a fresh layer of Vintage; it was completely clean and unbelievabley shiny. I was shocked beyond words. I spent a good ten minutes going over the paint from every angle in bright sunlight trying to find something left on the paint. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The car was clean! The thing that was so shocking to me was that every water spot was gone. I have never seen water spots come completely off a car from just a touchless wash. I was truly floored.



These results pretty much follow the results I had been seeing with my Charger, but I hadn't let my Charger go more than two or three days between washings, so I really didn't know how well the Vintage would let go of the tough stuff.



Today was also the first time I tried using Zymol's Field Glaze on my Charger. I've always been kinda leery of Zymol's stuff, inluding the Vintage. I really wanted it to live up to the hype, but I was very skeptical that any product could live up to the price tags associated with Zymol. Also, I have grown to truly hate the HD-Cleanse. So out of two Zymol products used, I had hated one, and still hadn't decided on the other. I was truly impressed with the Field Glaze. It made the car look even better than it had after it's last coat of Vintage. It adds a Zaino kind of gloss, which, over the top of the Vintage, just really adds to the depth and overall quality of the look. Imagine carnauba depth with Zaino shine. I just stood there and stared at my car for ten minutes. The Field Glaze has better than Z8 gloss to it.





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No, Vintage is not just a pretty face; the stuff protects paint better than any LSP I've used so far. Not only that, but when it comes time to wash, it releases dirt and contaminants so readily that most of the time I don't need to use a wash mitt or a brush to get the car completely clean.
 
After reading all this I really want vintage now. Thanks guys now im really jelous.. ohh well i guees im stuck with concours untill the tution is paid lol.... but im def. gonna follow this thread
 
LOL - Yeah I can feel my wallet loosening too.



One thing about the refills. If I bought Vinatge from the US over to England would I still get the refills ? I'm wondering if it's region specific - you buy it in the US, you must be in the US to get the refills.



I only ask because Vintage is £1800 in the Uk & $1800 in the US. Even with shipping & import duty / vat I could still save £600 by importing it. Of course that wouldn't be much good if Mr Zymol then refused to do the refill bacause I didn't buy it in the UK.:nixweiss
 
Vintage Thanks for the Layering info :2thumbs:



Superbee, as a matter of fact I did read that post of yours a week or so ago

when it was posted, I am very updated with the things run through here regarding

vintage. but my only questions have been answered in this post, a Sticky for sure

for any vintage forum? :2thumbs:



I also though that vintage needs only 1 layer to last at least 4 months, but I guess

carnuba is always carnuba.



What’s my option to apply the stuff? only bare hands or can it be milted and applied?



Thanks again great Info!

and sorry if I hijacked the post :p
 
Harry Houdini said:
Vintage Thanks for the Layering info :2thumbs:



Superbee, as a matter of fact I did read that post of yours a week or so ago

when it was posted, I am very updated with the things run through here regarding

vintage. but my only questions have been answered in this post, a Sticky for sure

for any vintage forum? :2thumbs:



I also though that vintage needs only 1 layer to last at least 4 months, but I guess

carnuba is always carnuba.



What’s my option to apply the stuff? only bare hands or can it be milted and applied?



Thanks again great Info!

and sorry if I hijacked the post :p
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You're welcome Harry, anytime. I love using other products as well, like Optimum or Mernzerna, but I am partial to Zymol since I've been using them for about 14 years now.



Vintage and Royale, and the other estatge glazes for that matter, are applied by hand. Do NOT use a wax app. I will never forget when a client of the local Ferrari dealership bought a brand new 328, got the whole Zymol Ital, HD Cleanse, etc. and applied the Ital with a wax app. He scratched it up big time! Lesson: follow the directions and apply estate glazes by hand. It's worth it :wavey
 
Vintage said:
You're welcome Harry, anytime. I love using other products as well, like Optimum or Mernzerna, but I am partial to Zymol since I've been using them for about 14 years now.



Vintage and Royale, and the other estatge glazes for that matter, are applied by hand. Do NOT use a wax app. I will never forget when a client of the local Ferrari dealership bought a brand new 328, got the whole Zymol Ital, HD Cleanse, etc. and applied the Ital with a wax app. He scratched it up big time! Lesson: follow the directions and apply estate glazes by hand. It's worth it :wavey
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Lesson takin! :xyxthumbs
 
This may be the silliest thread that I have ever read!



If it is truly a wax, then it cannot be layered. True . Simple Fact.



Lighten up guys...



Jim
 
Edit: There are a lot of topics on this board in terms of layering. It is a hotly debated discussion. It is my personal opinion based on my years of experience with using pure carnaubas as well as mild carnauba blended waxes and cleaner waxes, that a pure wax is indeed layerable....almost perfectly layerable; However, again this is my observation.



Oh boy...here I go. A pure wax by its definition will not remove any layer or contaminant or spot beneath it. Take any pure wax, such as P21S, and go over some dried rain or dirt spots on a surface. You should notice that the wax will not remove the spotting; In fact, the wax should glide over the spotting, even with a little bit of pressure. That is a testament that the wax will not remove anything beneath it......it will "lay" right on top of whatever you are putting it on.



Take another lsp (or the one that you may be using now) and do the same test. If that lsp removes the spots or dirt, guess what? That lsp contains cleaning agents, and will have very limited layering abilities or perhaps no layering ability.



Darnit.......what was the question now???? Oh well.



Calgary!!!! Hope you are having fun with Concours. It is a great wax!
 
I finally got a sample of Vintage. I am going to use it next chance I get; I am still interested in picking it up. Gonna have to be careful though, this thread might start attracting the heat.
 
Its intoxicating, I know!!!! Like the saying goes: Once you've tried caviar..........



I miss my meguiars!
 
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