Zymol Royale question

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coverbw

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Why is there 2 different colors of wax in that container? I thought maybe for $7K Zymol gives you the choice of using blue or white... ;)
 
IIRC, one is the wax the other is an activator.

I've never used Zymol Royal and I'm not a chemist, but I'm sure I heard that somewhere.
 
todd@bsaw said:
IIRC, one is the wax the other is an activator.

I've never used Zymol Royal and I'm not a chemist, but I'm sure I heard that somewhere.
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The coloured one is made to specific paint colour, one of the Zymol detailer over here has his red for all the Ferrari's he details, the other one is a generic blend for all paint types.



I believe the blue one you are refering to is for darker colours
 
todd@bsaw said:
IIRC, one is the wax the other is an activator.

I've never used Zymol Royal and I'm not a chemist, but I'm sure I heard that somewhere.
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you probably heard it from that fifth gear clip of the guy that details the supercars. i believe he had blue and white wax/activator/(or whatever.)
 
Right, I believe Royale is made to order, and you specify what paint you will use it on.

So it would be to provide two separate mixes to use according to what you will be waxing.
 
I was looking at the pics of that paul daulton detail of the astra and noticed both sides of his royale is white. You must be able to specify what kind you want... :nixweiss
 
coverbw said:
You must be able to specify what kind you want... :nixweiss
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For what your paying you would hope so.



But also Paul Dalton I am guessing would use one designed for all paint types seeing as he uses this stuff on so many different cars and car colors.
 
coverbw said:
Why is there 2 different colors of wax in that container? I thought maybe for $7K Zymol gives you the choice of using blue or white... ;)
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You can request different tints for different cars that you are doing. You can provide vin codes to Zymol and they can do a custom formula for you.
 
What people fail to express that though the High end Zymol Glazes (Vintage and Royal)are EXTREMELY Expensive you only pay for them once in your lifetime. After your initial purchase if they ever need to be refilled Zymol does it an no cost.
 
gtrentii said:
What people fail to express that though the High end Zymol Glazes (Vintage and Royal)are EXTREMELY Expensive you only pay for them once in your lifetime. After your initial purchase if they ever need to be refilled Zymol does it an no cost.
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True, but you are paying for shipping but that doesn’t matter, its a good deal

but pain in the behind to apply vintage and royal by hand.



One thing I have Not seen yet is the durability between the two, or how long

each last on the paint summer or winter especially the vintage?



About to order vintage soon. :woot2:
 
I have had Vintage (and previously Concours) on my car's finish from Spring to Spring. I layer my wax thru-out the summer, and during the winter the car sits (actually it sits most of the time in the garage).
 
lbls1 said:
I have had Vintage (and previously Concours) on my car's finish from Spring to Spring. I layer my wax thru-out the summer, and during the winter the car sits (actually it sits most of the time in the garage).
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Thanks lbls1 very informative regarding Zymol :goodjob



When you say layering Vintage through out the summer you mean how many times

applied every how much period of time?



Edit: My cars are always garage parked but they are always being used, I assum yours too?
 
A good rule of thumb is to allow a min. of two weeks between sessions. Vintage is a very powerful wax, and if you are good in keeping the car clean and out of the elements, you can stretch your sessions up to a month and still manage to accumulate a good amount of the wax.



I would go slow with Vintage. Vintage's characteristic (along with all of the EGZ's) is that it has the most intense color rendering effect in their low layering stages (such as the first layer after a good prep session). However, from personal experience, if you take your time with the wax while keeping the surface clean and contaminant free, and use a very good mild qd in between, by the 4th or 5th layer your EGZymol's finish will be "all over the place." It gets extremely deep, and it will really liquify the finish with the right handling. If you apply it too quickly and without properly dissolving the haze and allowing it to dry thoroughly, you may end up with a streaky finish that may be shiny, but it could lack clarity and the color may even suffer a bit (example.......putting 3-5 layers on in a day or two.....).



Edit: My time constraints have it so nowadays that I average about once a month with driving the signature car :work: :mad: . At least it keeps me out of harm's way from the "Mod Bug"(compulsion to modify) as well as keeping me out of traffic court!!!:chuckle:
 
lbls1 knows his stuff when it comes to Zymol Estate Glazes. My first Vintage experience went very smoothly thanks to his help.



Edit: BTW, I'm having to start over again with the Vintage, lbls1. My wife parked the car under some very sappy trees the other day. I ended up having to take all the wax off in the process of removing the sap. The vintage really did help in making the sap easier to remove, though. I thought I was going to be in for a long day, but a good wash with CG's CW&G at paint cleanser strength and the sap (as well as the Vintage) was gone.
 
blush blush!!!!



But this wax............you'll see!



Edit: Hang in there SuperBee!!!!! You'll get to the "finish"......you're determined!
 
lbls1 said:
A good rule of thumb is to allow a min. of two weeks between sessions. Vintage is a very powerful wax, and if you are good in keeping the car clean and out of the elements, you can stretch your sessions up to a month and still manage to accumulate a good amount of the wax.



I would go slow with Vintage. Vintage's characteristic (along with all of the EGZ's) is that it has the most intense color rendering effect in their low layering stages (such as the first layer after a good prep session). However, from personal experience, if you take your time with the wax while keeping the surface clean and contaminant free, and use a very good mild qd in between, by the 4th or 5th layer your EGZymol's finish will be "all over the place." It gets extremely deep, and it will really liquify the finish with the right handling. If you apply it too quickly and without properly dissolving the haze and allowing it to dry thoroughly, you may end up with a streaky finish that may be shiny, but it could lack clarity and the color may even suffer a bit (example.......putting 3-5 layers on in a day or two.....).



Edit: My time constraints have it so nowadays that I average about once a month with driving the signature car :work: :mad: . At least it keeps me out of harm's way from the "Mod Bug"(compulsion to modify) as well as keeping me out of traffic court!!!:chuckle:
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Thanks for the great advices in your post, this is the most helpful reply I have gotten

regarding the wax.



I am in another world very anal when it comes to the cars condition, I think tdkeny

would vote for me as far as proper car maintenance. I do clay with sonus green "gently every now and then" and I do use the new suverna Spray wax to maintain RMG and FK-PW.



From what I understand from you and Superbee is that this Wax is just weak in protection and its only job is to make a car looks wet and great finish.

the durability is a month? wow that is even lower than the clamed 6 month of protection!



Lets say I applied it today, a month down the road reapply after sonus green, will I get 2 month of protection out of it? I also use Gold Class for wash's.

also how do you apply the wax by hand or applicator? I heared somewhere that you can heat up the wax so it can melt and then apply it with applicator or PC?
 
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