zymol estate glaze : vintage

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change81

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i've heard great reviews about zymol products. a lil overpriced is the word. but my question is about this one ridiculously overpriced wax. how long does 22 ounces last? http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm its 1852... hahahaha but unlimited refills? anybody wanna throw down? if we get 190 ppl its only 10 dollars a pop, and its unlimited~!

seriously tho, i have like 9-10 people that wax together (family so no flakiness of running away with the 2000 dollar jar of wax), and we all think if this wax is that freakin amazing, then at 100-200 a person, if we never ever ever need to by anymore wax, then it might be worth it? any thoughts?
 
this isn't even their most expensive. that would be alantique, for 8 ounces its 1116, and no refills, im just thinking for 22 oz, thats not that much per ounce... hahahah omg im crazy. 84 an ounce compared to 139 an ounce... wow...

the destiny is around 60 an ounce.

but seriousy, 84 an ounce, but with every refill you get money back. if you were a detailer that had a high volume of high end cars, and could charge extra for 84 an ounce wax, but in the end its refilling wouldnt you go for that?

or am i just trying to justify something that i have no right justifying.

CURSE THIS SITE AND ITS CLICK AND BRAG SECTION~!!!
 
change81 said:
i've heard great reviews about zymol products. a lil overpriced is the word. but my question is about this one ridiculously overpriced wax. how long does 22 ounces last? http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm its 1852... hahahaha but unlimited refills? anybody wanna throw down? if we get 190 ppl its only 10 dollars a pop, and its unlimited~!

seriously tho, i have like 9-10 people that wax together (family so no flakiness of running away with the 2000 dollar jar of wax), and we all think if this wax is that freakin amazing, then at 100-200 a person, if we never ever ever need to by anymore wax, then it might be worth it? any thoughts?
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It’s called Zaino and it’s so much less expensive!!! The power of the ultimate Detailer and Zymol marketing, LMAO.
 
Have used the Vintage on my truck in a side by side comaprison to three other carnuabas. Mother's, P21S, Pinnacle Souveran. In my tests I found it to be lacking. It did not create what I would call a 2000 dollar shine. Not worth the price. All my test showed to me was I do not want a carnuaba protecting my vehicle.



I use Zaino on my wife's vehicle. I use a whole lot of other sealants on my truck just to keep informed. I use Poorboy's on all my friends vehicle's. I will not use any of those ultra expensive products on my vehicle again. I am a working man. I not only cannot afford them....they are not worth it IMHO!!
 
i like the souveran, dont get me wrong, but i like to top my sealants with a nice carnuaba wax. i am about to try out zaino, and wanna give fmj a try, just not sure if its just a sealant, or a polish and sealant.

but no matter what, when i see a properly prepped concurs up against a well done natty blue, or even the pinnacle, (on black anyways) the metallic just seems to pop more, and theres a depth that the mothers def doesnt give.

so if the concurs is nice, im thinking the vintage has to be nice.

and if i do get this, this will be my wax for all cars. period. as in no other wax for the rest of my hopefully long detailing life. so considering i have 4-5 cars i wax reg, like once a month, im thinking mebe 1852 for an unlimited jar of outstanding stuff would pay itself off in 4-5 years. and if i do charge some ppl for some details mebe i can get some of the cost back as well?



its just... this unlimited refill thing is... so compelling...
 
"mebe" must be maybe, right? :D



Do a Google search for 'Zymöl Royale'!



...So if the Concours is nice, the Vintage is nicer, you'll be thinking that the Royale has to be even nicer too!
 
If I had 9 or 10 people I could split it with then I would do it. I was willing to pay $100+ for Concours so if I could get Vintage for the same price then I would do it.



My first Zymol wax that I bought was Concours and at the time I was using Soveran. I definitely felt the Concours produced a significantly wetter, deeper shine with clearer more crisp reflections. Then I tried Vintage which I thought really kicked the shine up another notch. I never bought the $1000 jar though. I got a smaller jar in the Pebble Beach Sampler kit.



Personally, I do not recommend Zaino to anyone. It produces IMO the most plastic, artificial looking shine I've ever seen. It looks on some colors as if you've poured lacquer over the car. Don't get me wrong, I do use sealants . . . on other people's cars. ;)



This is the beauty and sometimes most frustrating thing about detailing . . . it's all personal opinion. There are no objective measures. Unfortunately, a lot of people get fixated declaring one product "the best." IMHO though there is no such thing as "the best."
 
i tried zymol its diffrent very diffrent i tried :



concourse glaze :very deep shine and nice refliction



destiny glaze : i love it ....you car become like multi color paint .....my maxima is gold i saw many kind of refliction i mean like creystal or like somthing above the paint with out loss your depth in color





carbon wax or cream wax : it normal wax like any nothing spicail.



you most use zymol hd cleaner to give the paint full gloss ...and zymol glaze to balance your paint with dramtic shine......



for me the best wax

1- destiny glaze for light color



2- nxt for black non mitalic paint only



3-concourse glaze for gold or darker car .....its good in light color but not like destiny



the best in zymol product.... the durbalitiy 5- 6 month
 
so somehow i've convinced myself into mebe gettin the vintage. until.



Bence said:
"mebe" must be maybe, right? :D



Do a Google search for 'Zymöl Royale'!



...So if the Concours is nice, the Vintage is nicer, you'll be thinking that the Royale has to be even nicer too!
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was that really necessary? really? did you have to go and do that?

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

not cool.

on the upside. it is refilled for life.... i need a 100 ppl now...



so... umm... anybody down on a 100 person group buy for the royale?



seriously tho. the more i think about it the more it makes sense. or am i crazy? i gotta be.



how can i seriously sit here and think about a 10000 wax. its 10,000 dollars.



refilled for life tho...

:grrr
 
in other side the price is very $$$$$ expincive



some time i saide if i need exellent shine with good price i will use souvern + creystal mist or nxt + final incpiction



i now the durbaility is less than zymol but pinnacle have dramatic shine also





souvern only one you fell it save in paint not like p21 its nice but implify the scratch .
 
I've seen it written in many other posts that the unlimited refill thing was unlimited but only once per year. I don't know if that's right or not.
 
change81 said:
so somehow i've convinced myself into mebe gettin the vintage. until.







was that really necessary? really? did you have to go and do that?

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

not cool.

on the upside. it is refilled for life.... i need a 100 ppl now...

:grrr
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Don’t you just love people who think intellectual superiority is correcting peoples spelling and grammar on a “detailers forum�. Wait until they become real adults LMAO...................
 
WHO CARES!



The point is maid weather the spellin is wright or wrong. .0000001%





doged said:
Don’t you just love people who think intellectual superiority is correcting peoples spelling and grammar on a “detailers forum�. Wait until they become real adults LMAO...................
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nonono, i wasnt venting at the mebe/maybe. i can spell i don't really care about that. i'm not writing a freakin paper for school or something. i was more venting @ why did he have to tell me about the royale... hahahaha . no worries.
 
but you do have a point. seriously, im sure the person typing knows he's not spelling right, or has perfect grammar on a forum. on the internet. just as long as the people reading can understand. seriously, sometimes its just impossible to understand what some people are typing, i think a couple missed commas and periods, and misspells wont confuse too many people.
 
From what I understand, you have to send back the container and Zymol refills it for you. I guess it's no issue if you just take the wax out and send them the container...not sure if they track how many times they've issued a refill for a particular customer. You still have to pay the shipping fees I believe, so there's an ongoing cost that's incurred.
 
If I want quality, no matter if it's the internet, a speech, or a lecture.



As you can read the sig of a forum member: Quality is a habit, not just an act. - Aristotle



doged, this reaction mirrored a certain level of the above mentioned "intellectual superiority" & textual analysis/interpretation... How's your Hungarian?



My intention is to help people (if just one letter more, then it is already a success), and I seriously think that a colorful, booklike writing (most recently serge03) influences the mind and the personality in a positive way. But if you don't have this need...



We have the talent to differentiate homepathic subtleties in certain appearances, therefore we MUST represent a manifestation of perfection (That's why change81 desperately wants a big, heavy crystal tub of Royale Glaze...) - otherwise the whole (the holistic) approach is just an illusion.
 
I am partially responsible for hijacking one zymol thread, so I will behave on this one. Ladies and gentlemen, unless you have tried Vintaaaghe, you will have no idea how potent its performance is. That is all I have to say on this topic.



Compare...............................if you dare!
 
:werd:

and i feel you on quality. i don't understand people that purchase high quantity low quality stuff. get it right the first time, and there wont be a second time. or purchase.

i've come to the conclusion with many products, if you invest money in the beginning, and get something high quality, it'll be cheaper than having to repurchase a lower quality product.
 
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