Zymol Atlantique

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I haven't tried it. I'll bet it might be a disadvantage to purchase it, being that it is close to the re-fillable Vintage. Someone posted a black 4-door sedan last year with Atlantique, backed by Sonus' SFX polishes, and the results were breathtaking.



The differences in appearance at that price range between the Zymols I'd wager may be minimal. All of the EGZ's have incredible depth and sharpness in reflected finishes, but I've seen differences in clarity and color rendition in comparison with the Zymols once you get past Concours. Aside from the depth and sheen, Destiny, Atlantique and Vintage on the outset seem very close to each other in appearance IMO. I've seen photos of Royale as well (but not Solaris yet) and it appears that it could be the sharpest of the Zymols. Microns close to the Vintage, but perhaps slightly more noticeable to Concours and Destiny.



I'd say that if you want to avoid all of the hoopla with the price and the mailings for refills, then Destiny, Ital or Concours could be the "go-to" EGZ.
 
Ohhhh I didn't read the rest of this juicy thread. SuperBee, Vintage, 01bluecls, Zymol and a few others here on the board (you may even believe what I say...) will tell you their experiences with the Zymols.



The proof will be in the results. If anyone that's actually tried the Zymols and have found them to not be of their suggested ability, then that's their experience....not taking anything away from that.



However, there is MUCH more to this product than just its price and image. You will only really be able to observe an EGZ's performance by trying it out, and putting the finish to an in-depth comparison against other waxes and lsps.



Speaking from my experience, I would never have thought that anyone that has bought an EGZ and continues to use it would have done so WITHOUT comparing it to other lsps.
 
Zymol said:
You've actually tried and used all of these Zymol waxes?

Zymol wax: - Creame, Carbon, Japon, Saab, Volvo, Talon, Mini, Detail, Rouge, Ebony, Jaguar, Glasur, Titanium, the Fantasy line by Zymol - Fantasy Acrylic, Fantasy Urethane, Fantasy Lacquer,

Now we get into the Estate Glaze line - Concours, Ital, Destiny, Atlantique, Vintage, Royale.



That's a pretty bold / broad statement you made there bro. IF you really have tried them all, then hats off to you. I am factory Trained at the Zymol Factory in 1991, and I have only tried and worked with most of them.



Thank God I find your post to be hilarious.

:funnypost



Wise 85 - I agree completely with your comment "Now,i do not wish to upset any Souveran fans,but all of the EG Zymol waxes are in a different league,IMO."



Souveran is a good wax. Zymol is a Great wax!

Volkswagons are good little German cars. Mercedes are Great German cars.



Cheers from Canada

Larry B
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Nice job, Larry... five members reported you as a SPAMMER. Bye, bye!



:beware
 
lbls1 said:
I haven't tried it. I'll bet it might be a disadvantage to purchase it, being that it is close to the re-fillable Vintage. Someone posted a black 4-door sedan last year with Atlantique, backed by Sonus' SFX polishes, and the results were breathtaking.



The differences in appearance at that price range between the Zymols I'd wager may be minimal. All of the EGZ's have incredible depth and sharpness in reflected finishes, but I've seen differences in clarity and color rendition in comparison with the Zymols once you get past Concours. Aside from the depth and sheen, Destiny, Atlantique and Vintage on the outset seem very close to each other in appearance IMO. I've seen photos of Royale as well (but not Solaris yet) and it appears that it could be the sharpest of the Zymols. Microns close to the Vintage, but perhaps slightly more noticeable to Concours and Destiny.



I'd say that if you want to avoid all of the hoopla with the price and the mailings for refills, then Destiny, Ital or Concours could be the "go-to" EGZ.
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I agree. If you're going to spend the big bucks on Atlantique, just spend a little more and get the Vintage. I have used Atlantique and currently using Vintage and Ital lately. Whe I've put Vintage and Atlantique side by side, I could not tell the difference - then again, I may be blind compared to others on Autopia. If you really want to step up to EG's, stick with Concours or even Ital.
 
DavidB said:
Nice job, Larry... five members reported you as a SPAMMER. Bye, bye!



:beware
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David, why did you ban Zymol? He wasn't spaming anyone. Read the few post he has posted for yourself. Lots of discusions about Zymol on your forum. Once again, Zymol was not spaming anyone. As a mater of fact others were insulting him. So much for your 5 Spam Police.
 
Banned lol I love Souveran but love the EG line better. I mainly try to use EG waxes for my clients but if time is a factor then Souveran goes on.
 
Gnosis said:
David, why did you ban Zymol? He wasn't spaming anyone. Read the few post he has posted for yourself. Lots of discusions about Zymol on your forum. Once again, Zymol was not spaming anyone. As a mater of fact others were insulting him. So much for your 5 Spam Police.
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lol Not the best first post to have...you almost make it sound like you are "Zymol" but under a different screen name from a different IP. (Im NOT actually accusing you of it, but it seems a little "fishy" :) )
 
01bluecls said:
Banned lol I love Souveran but love the EG line better. I mainly try to use EG waxes for my clients but if time is a factor then Souveran goes on.
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Yes I agree with you. Souvern is an excellent and easy to use wax. But you had best be carefull that the Word Police on here don't turn you in as a Spamer because you happen to like the EG line better.



Warning: "Gnosis" is the same user as "Zymol". Re-read the above with that in mind. -- Tort (mod)
 
Gnosis said:
Yes I agree with you. Souvern is an excellent and easy to use wax. But you had best be carefull that the Word Police on here don't turn you in as a Spamer because you happen to like the EG line better.
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Great, now you're a shill, too?



Well, allow me to send Chuck Bennet an email and let him know that you are ruining his company's reputation and credibility.



If you come back again Larry I will ban the word "Zymol". Vendors... that's you, Larry, are not allowed to market their products on Autopia without paying. And then you are confined to a well marked "commercial area". We don't give a hoot what YOU think about your product... what the members think is all that matters.



Now, we will thank you very much to not come back and shill or spam us again. I have banned your 72.39.173.72 IP address. Keep it up and I will take action with your network provider.



:bat
 
Geez, all I wanted was some insight from people that have actually used the Atlantique and their thoughts on the 60% white carnauba content vs people that have used Souveran and its 47% yellow/white blend.



I've actually gotten some good feedback and replies. Maybe its time to end this thread before it evolves into a "which wax is better" thread.
 
tod071 said:
Geez, all I wanted was some insight from people that have actually used the Atlantique and their thoughts on the 60% white carnauba content vs people that have used Souveran and its 47% yellow/white blend.



I've actually gotten some good feedback and replies. Maybe its time to end this thread before it evolves into a "which wax is better" thread.
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IMHO, the smart money is on P21S. You can spend $400 and still not beat the results of this wax. I've tried! The day I can produce a better Carnauba wax, I will. Until then, it's P21S!
 
01bluecls said:
Banned lol I love Souveran but love the EG line better. I mainly try to use EG waxes for my clients but if time is a factor then Souveran goes on.
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be careful the last guy that said he liked zymol better got banned
 
codiddy said:
be careful the last guy that said he liked zymol better got banned
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Just DROP IT!!! :nomore:



01bluecls has contributed a ton to this forum and has also helped me out with his expertise and photos of this work. His words can be backed up by his work.



I welcome input from people that have actually used the products and have knowledge of what they're using. Input like his saying that "EG is mainly used on his customers with Souveran as backup" hold alot of weight coming from him.
 
tod071 said:
Input like his saying that EG is reserved for elite cars hold alot of weight coming from him.
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I don't think he said that, i believe he said he uses souveran when time is a factor, not because a car is "Elite."
 
I don't think Larry sells Zymol anymore. I believe he did back in the 90s. Either way, you might as well ban me too, because I like most waxes not just Souveran; and yes, I prefer the EG's to Souveran. This thread took a disgusting turn.
 
WOW, this thread turned into a disaster and will probably get shut-down here shortly. I think this a common case of internet forum misunderstanding. I personally dont think Larry "Zymol" was spamming per say. I guess 5 members felt he was and reported him to DavidB. I understand DavidB's actions since I dont think he has time to investigate every member reported. He did what he felt was right in correspondence to complaints received. I think that Larry just happened to position himself in the wrong manner especially since he had the screen name "Zymol" and was explaining his like of zymol products.



Its almost like the Salem Witch trials on online-forums these days. Accuse one person and then the witch hunt begins. I wish it wasnt like that but its reality.



To the oringal posters, Atlantique is a good marque wax with great qualities. I have used all the EG line-up except concours. I feel if you are going to spring for the money on Atlantique, you might as well get lifetime supply of vintage. You always get people saying you are crazy for spending that money but as always in these threads, money spent is relative to what YOU want. People overspend on things everyday but it happens and its YOUR MONEY. :)
 
DavidB said:
IMHO, the smart money is on P21S. You can spend $400 and still not beat the results of this wax. I've tried! The day I can produce a better Carnauba wax, I will. Until then, it's P21S!
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Absolutely true! I use Vintage on my personal cars or on cars that will be cared for. Who wants to waste Vintage on a car that will be parked outside or taken to a swirl tunnel carwash? For friends/family that don't take care of their cars, but want me to detail it . . . it's definitely KAIO topped with P21S Concours. For the money, you cannot beat that combo.



I am a Zymol loyalist, been using it for about 15 years now, but even I have to admit that the KAIO/P21S combo is probably the most bang for your buck!
 
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