ZAIO vs HD Speed + Poxy

Ok, well, I think the Speed and Poxy are done. This is one of the few experiments where I actually got the result I expected! Through years of playing around with various combinations, I've noticed there is little reason to top an AIO unless you are using something significantly more durable, 845IW is a great choice. But why bother using the AIO if you are topping anyway?



So as it stands, Speed+Poxy was no more durable for me than just Speed. ZAIO did great as expected. I wonder if the ZAIO topped with DG would have done better, but I don't really care to wait 4-6 months for the ZAIO to wear off. Pictures and videos for your viewing pleasure:



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Minor bird bomb etching, what was interesting is the bomb was pea sized droplets that went from the ZAIO side all the way to the fender. It looked like the same batch, but who knows. The Speed fender was fine, the ZAIO side was fine. The worn out speed area was not.

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In closing, Speed is a nice product, easy to work with, and great immediate results. Also, putting on another layer of Poxy appears to be a waste of time. If you want to do two steps, go Polish+Poxy, or just use an AIO as it was intened...not topped!
 
Im curious, how many days was the test? How many times did it get rained on? How many times did you wash it? And what techniques/tools did you use in washing? (So I can compare to what I do and estimate if my results would be comparable.)



Great testing. You showed a lot of detailing restraint! :)
 
Brad B. said:
Im curious, how many days was the test? How many times did it get rained on? How many times did you wash it? And what techniques/tools did you use in washing?
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I ended up going a few days shy of six weeks. We've had some REALLY intense heat here and frequent showers coming through, probably three strong thunderstorms per week, so figure about 15 rainfalls, about 1/4 of those being on hot paint, which LSPs seem to dislike. Not to shabby by AIO standards, certainly better that Poliseal, FK215/2180, M66/D151, etc.



IIRC, I did two ONR washes, one Opticlean wipedown and one traditional wash with Zaino carwash, I was trying to be kind the Speed and not kill it with my usual NXT wash. I'm in between pressure washer setup (and it sucks!) so I only used a regular hose.... and felt like a caveman!
 
Dan--Great test!! Thanks for putting in the time. Interesting how Zaino products get bashed by allot of people -- usually those who have never tried them. BTW--How did the DG section do in comparison to the ZAIO section??
 
Thanks, the DG looked the same as the Zaino, no difference yet, from past use, it'd take months to notice the difference. If it was winter time, I might let it go longer, but I love playing with LSPs in the summer.
 
Thanks for taking the time to post your final results. Good to know that the ZAIO protected against the bird bomb etching.



On a leased garage queen I had in the past, I layered an entire bottle of Z2P w/zfx over a course of 4 years. I ended up with some water etching on the front edge of the hood when I got stuck following a vehicle that kicked up some "road water". I was really surprised and disappointed but Zaino still remains as one of my favorite products.
 
Yeah, I've posted about etchings with Z2 as well, I wish I knew what caused it because I would love to use it on my DDs.
 
Great testing, Dan. Thanks for the extra info.



What power washer are you going to use? Do you normally use foam gun?



I have an old power washer but I seldom use it out of laziness. I prefer to pull out the hose and go old school. Do you find better results with power wash or just speed? Maybe I need to up my game. :)
 
No foam gun, I think its gimmicky unless the car is just trashed. I have an AR Blue 610 connected to a hose bib in the garage. It's just a matter of unwinding the hose and hitting the power button. I'd definitely recommend it, makes washing safer and faster. I also find I use a LOT less water.
 
I just looks at the AR line. Wow, it looks pretty cool. Reasonably compact which is nice. Are the hoses fairly flexible or are they stiff like my cheapie washer is. (Maybe they have to be stiff for the pressure?) the general un-yieldiness of the hoses aggravate me to set it up. If you have it already "hard wired" and ready to pull out that makes a lot of sense. Sounds like a nice set up.
 
The hoses are more pliable for sure but as soon as they get up to pressure, it might as well be steel cable. IMO they key to the hose thing is having lots of it. I find I need at least 35 feet to work comfortably. If you have less, yeah, the hose gets in the way.
 
Dan or others,



So the final result of this "specific" test was that ZAIO without a LSP, out-beaded/outlasted the HD-Speed + Poxy? Sorry lost track of the result along the way.
 
Well... yes, the above was true, ZAIO outlasted Speed, but there was more to the test. Specifically I was wanting to see how well Speed did in the cleaning an polishing dept, which it did very well. I also wanted to see if there was any point in topping Speed with Poxy. The test showed that applying Poxy over speed had little to no impact on durability. Speed is an excellent product, but if you are looking for good durability, you will need to follow up with something else.
 
So Dan--how about using ZAIO or DG 501(if all you want to use is an AIO) then topping with POXY? That way you get the durability and the look of POXY.
 
I'd be worried that ZAIO or DG501 wouldn't cure correctly with Poxy applied directly afterwards.
 
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