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Is the Z5 the one you can layer with that additive?

If so why is it not sold as a sealant?



Using Zaio and Z5 seams kind of redundant
 
Dent's & Details said:
Is the Z5 the one you can layer with that additive?

If so why is it not sold as a sealant?



Using Zaio and Z5 seams kind of redundant
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Z5 Pro and Z2 Pro are both "pure" sealants with no cleaning or abrasive properties. Z5 just has some slight filling properties. They can both be layered using ZFX.



ZAIO *does* have cleaners and mild abrasives. No redundancies (sp?).
 
Dent's & Details said:
Is the Z5 the one you can layer with that additive?

If so why is it not sold as a sealant?



Using Zaio and Z5 seams kind of redundant
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Zaino (anachronistically) uses the term "polish" for their sealants. The Z2 and Z5 can be accelerated/layered with ZFX. So anyway...ZAIO and Z5 isn't any more redundant than KAIO and SG.



Disclaimer: I haven't used Z-AIO or CS.
 
Dent's & Details said:
Is the Z5 the one you can layer with that additive?

If so why is it not sold as a sealant?



Using Zaio and Z5 seams kind of redundant
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Ron, Z2Pro and Z5Pro are both sealers. Zaino recommends using zfx (the additive) during initial use for maximum bonding, to ensure that you get the full life out of the product. It is also needed if you plan to apply multiple coats in a 24 hour period (zfx also accelerates the dry and cure time).



Using ZAIO and Z5 is optional, but not required. Either of them can be used for protection. Z5 will offer greater durability (and is a sealer only product) vs ZAIO (which will chemically clean and protect).



I know that you use the Optimum line up, so think of it as using Poli-Seal, then topping with another LSP. You can use Poli-Seal as a stand alone for protection, or apply a dedicated LSP over Poli-Seal for additional protection. Does that make sense?
 
It is just Zaino's (and a few others; DG's, etc.) own wording to refer to their sealants as "polishes". Odd, but it conforms with the raw material industry. Dow Corning for example call all its formulations generally a polish - no matter if it is a natural blend or fully synthetic; abrasive or not abrasive. When referring to detergent proof formulas, they even state "these were formerly called ‘polymer sealants’."...
 
Can you omit ZFX if you are going to us ZAIO? For instance, ZAIO -> Z5x2 - Z2x2 - CS



Would a process like this work fine without ZFX even if I layer the Z2/Z5? Or do I need the ZFX to hasten the cure time in between layers?
 
Strokin04 said:
What about if I do a Z7, clay, ZPC, ZAIO, Z5pro/ZFX x2, Z2pro/ZFX and then CS? This will be the very first time my truck ever see's Zaino. Currently it has DG 105 x2 topped with AW and I have been happy this combo but, always need to try new things. Damn detailing OCD!!! Mike...
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Strokin04,

That's a great line-up. This is what I do on my OCD detailed Z06. I would wait at least an hour after finishing the 3 layers of Z5/ZFX and Z2/ZFX before topping with CS. 4 layers (ZAIO, Z5 x 2 and Z2 x 1) is quite a bit of layering even with ZFX. Let these layer establish themselves and than top with CS. This is not necessary but "may" help the marriage of all these (5) layers when applied in 1 day.

Of course, if you are working outdoors just apply the CS immediately after the last layer of Z2 to avoid any aerial contamination (pollen especially) settling on the freshly polished and sealed surface and creating marring when the CS is applied.:hairpull



Have fun with your new toys. :up
 
BMW335i said:
Can you omit ZFX if you are going to us ZAIO? For instance, ZAIO -> Z5x2 - Z2x2 - CS



Would a process like this work fine without ZFX even if I layer the Z2/Z5? Or do I need the ZFX to hasten the cure time in between layers?
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One still needs to use ZFX if mulitple layers of Z2 or Z5 are being applied. The maximum layering without ZFX is 3 and these must consist of ZAIO, Z2 or Z5 and topped with CS.



Hope this helps. :wavey
 
BMW335i said:
Can you omit ZFX if you are going to us ZAIO? For instance, ZAIO -> Z5x2 - Z2x2 - CS



Would a process like this work fine without ZFX even if I layer the Z2/Z5? Or do I need the ZFX to hasten the cure time in between layers?
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My understanding is that ZAIO is sufficient prep for one layer of Z2/Z5 immediately after the ZAIO. If you are going to do additional layers on top of that, the subsequent Z2/Z5 layers should be ZFXed.



Fair disclosure: I haven't used Zaino products yet, but have done a lot of reading preparing to use them and I believe the above is correct (happy to be corrected though if wrong).
 
If you're going to do more than one coat within a 12 hour period, then ZFX will be needed for all coats, including the first.



If you're using ZAIO and you're only applying one coat, then ZFX isn't needed.



If you are going to apply subsequent coats after the first one and application for each coat is no less than 8-12 hours apart, then ZFX isn't needed.
 
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