Zaino Z5 and Filler

cotandem

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Talked with Zaino over the phone today. I have a dark blue car with minor/light scratches that I would like to get cleaned up. Zaino recommended first applying a couple of coats of Z5 because in so doing, it would fill up the scratches. Only recommended using ZPC if Z5 doesn't cover it up. Isn't that just hiding the issues? After some washings won't the filler be removed and I am right back where I started? Would I be any better off to use SSR2 or 2.5, or some other product before going with the Zaino system? Bottomline, I am confused between using a filler to hide the blemish versus an abrasive product to eliminate or reduce the blemish. Any advice or thoughts?
 
Well, you have a limited amount of clearcoat, so you should always use the least aggressive method possible. If your minor defects can be filled with 2-3 coats of Z5 Pro, then that route might be best for now. Z5 Pro is quite durable, so the fillers won't wash off after a wash or two, they'll be there for several months.



If you're not sure how to proceed, try taping off a section on the hood or another panel and apply a few coats of Z5 Pro to that area. If you're happy with the results, you can finish the whole vehicle. If you're not satisfied, you can polish the defects via abrasive.
 
First you need to find out what caused the swirls to begin with. Whatever it was (bad

towels, contamination, etc.), that situation needs to be resolved first before you continue

or no matter which way you go, the swirls will return.



Assuming that your swirl marks will get covered by the Z-5pro, if you follow the Zaino maintenance regimen (Z-5pro at least every 6 months on a daily driver), you can keep

the swirls from returning.



However, if you still see the swirls after 3 coats of Z-5pro, you should use Z-PC.
 
As the gentlemen stated above.



Something else to consider is if the vehicle is a daily driver and you do discover and can remedy the surface marring cause (i.e poor washing technique, soft paint, Qd'ing a slightly dusty surface, etc), I would polish first and than cover/fill the remainder with Z5PRO.



I, and most here desire to start with a clean canvas but sometimes one must determine when it is best to sacrifice a little clearcoat. If you drive the vehicle all winter and will be clearing off snow and ice, it may be best to cover/fill/protect with Z5PRO and polish in the spring.



A good "quik" test to determine if Z5PRO will fill/hide your present blemishes is to take a oil based glaze (i.e. Meg #7 or #9, RMG, IHG, etc) and see if a glaze will hide/fill the blemishes. If so, Z5PRO x 3-5 coats will also produce equivalent results. If the oil-based glaze fails to hide/fill the blemishes, Z5PRO will also fail. A polishing session will be needed.



Z5PRO is an amazing protectant and " very minor" surface blemish hiding formulation but it will not eliminate the need to clay and polish a surface to perfection. :wavey
 
unless the car has been compounded and polished extensively then you should have plenty of clear to use ZPC(use very little) as a swirl remover with a PC or RO. Then apply 2 coats of Z5pro with ZFX. After the following wash top with some Z8. Your car will look fantastick.
 
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