Zaino/Dust

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Zaino claims there products will repell dust, yeah right. My truck collects more dust now with the Zaino than it ever did before. After ONE day my black truck now looks brown, and no I didn't drive on any gravel roads.



I know I sound a little sour but I am really upset.
 
When did you apply the Zaino? For real, rubbing your car with a plastic (MF) towel generates a wicked static charge. Most people say it is dissipated after the first wash; Jimmy Buffit advocates hooking a pair of jumper cables from the chassis to a water pipe.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
When did you apply the Zaino? For real, rubbing your car with a plastic (MF) towel generates a wicked static charge. Most people say it is dissipated after the first wash; Jimmy Buffit advocates hooking a pair of jumper cables from the chassis to a water pipe.
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WOW, lol you are kidding right? :work:



I would suggest buying the FK quick Detailer 425? should do the trick.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
When did you apply the Zaino? For real, rubbing your car with a plastic (MF) towel generates a wicked static charge. Most people say it is dissipated after the first wash; Jimmy Buffit advocates hooking a pair of jumper cables from the chassis to a water pipe.
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I applied the Zaino yesterday. But wouldn't drying my truck again with a MF cause that same static charge?
 
That is odd. I am your neighbor to the East in Minnesota. My car sits outside 24/7 and looks great a week after the last wash. For discussion purposes, the car has Z5pro x 2, and 1 coat of Z8. I used to be hooked on #425 and honestly, I don't see any difference between the current combo collecting dust vs. #425. Black is a tricky color, it really shows the dust that accumulates. That is part of having a black truck IMHO.





Greg
 
GregCavi said:
That is odd. I am your neighbor to the East in Minnesota. My car sits outside 24/7 and looks great a week after the last wash. For discussion purposes, the car has Z5pro x 2, and 1 coat of Z8. I used to be hooked on #425 and honestly, I don't see any difference between the current combo collecting dust vs. #425. Black is a tricky color, it really shows the dust that accumulates. That is part of having a black truck IMHO.





Greg
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Trust me. I know black is tricky, all of my vehicles have been black. However, since I have used Zaino, none of my black vehicles have collected dust as fast as it does now.



If it is true about the static that MF towels produce when polishing, than that is the problem. I guess that will tell when I wash it next.



Thanks for the replys.
 
No product "repells dust". Dust is definitely an environmental created problem. Pollen is also everywhere "if" trees and grass grow there you have pollen. Here in the South, tree pollen ceased about 2 months ago and grass pollen season will be with us until late Fall. Normally grass pollen is not notice because of the volume and its initial origin - near the ground. Tree pollen falls on your surfaces and nothing will repell it.

If you live in a dusty environment and you have a black or dark colored vehicle. :(



What Zaino will do is not "hold-on" to precipitated dust/pollen and the majority will blow off when driven.



MF's can be used with Zaino but must be in the de-magnetized state when used.

Never use a MF straight from the dryer.

Allow MF's to self-discharge after drying.

Never machine dry MF's completely.



If I remember correctly, you had a problem of too much product application. The remedy was multiple tries at removal prior to finally using the recommended damp rag and z6 follow-up. This surface was probably highly magnetized by all of this manipulation (rubbing with MF).



Try washing and then drying with a WW MF or cotton towel. This will decrease the charge on your surface but "will not" negate any environmental factors.

Hope this helps.



PS

It might help if you enter you general location in your profile. Someone in your general area may have/had this problem and have a more region specific solution.:hifive:
 
blkZ28Conv said:
No product "repells dust". Dust is definitely an environmental created problem. Pollen is also everywhere "if" trees and grass grow there you have pollen. Here in the South, tree pollen ceased about 2 months ago and grass pollen season will be with us until late Fall. Normally grass pollen is not notice because of the volume and its initial origin - near the ground. Tree pollen falls on your surfaces and nothing will repell it.

If you live in a dusty environment and you have a black or dark colored vehicle. :(



What Zaino will do is not "hold-on" to precipitated dust/pollen and the majority will blow off when driven.



MF's can be used with Zaino but must be in the de-magnetized state when used.

Never use a MF straight from the dryer.

Allow MF's to self-discharge after drying.

Never machine dry MF's completely.



If I remember correctly, you had a problem of too much product application. The remedy was multiple tries at removal prior to finally using the recommended damp rag and z6 follow-up. This surface was probably highly magnetized by all of this manipulation (rubbing with MF).



Try washing and then drying with a WW MF or cotton towel. This will decrease the charge on your surface but "will not" negate any environmental factors.

Hope this helps.



PS

It might help if you enter you general location in your profile. Someone in your general area may have/had this problem and have a more region specific solution.:hifive:
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So the best thing to do when drying MF towels is to only machine dry them half way, then air dry the rest?
 
I own a black Tahoe daily driver/garaged, and have experienced just the opposite of what you are seeing. Maybe our processes are different? What Zaino products are on your paint, and what are you doing for upkeep (wash frequency, products, steps, etc...)? Do you keep your vehicle outside or garaged?



For maintenance, I use Z7 wash, and Z6/Z8 mix for QD during my drying process. I dry using a leaf blower & WW drying towels. I wash once a week, or after it rains (whichever comes first).



I'm not going to say that I don't get any dust on the paint, but I've found that I get significantly less dust attraction on my paint vs. most any other product that I've used. This is especially noticeable when I run through rain. My paint looks much cleaner vs. other black vehicles, and debris doesn't latch onto the paint.



During pollen season, it's a lost cause. Black paint & pollen = constant dusty paint.



Maybe you should top 1/2 of your hood with the product that you used to use (which attracted less dust), for comparison :confused:
 
LQ9SS said:
So the best thing to do when drying MF towels is to only dry them half way, then air dry the rest?
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I usually stop at least that amount but probably 3/4 dry. At this drying point there is less chance of mildew formation if MF are place in a storage container. You will notice a significant decrease in towel-to-towel static.

I am meticulous about folding them also, which tends to negate/lessen any towel-to-towel static creation if separated later. You will notice that when partially dry there is a great deal less static when removing from dryer and separating prior to folding.



I rotate my stock so the first being used are the furthest time-wise away from the drying cycle and folding procedure. Most MF's dissipate their drying charge with-in 24 hours.



Hope this helps.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
I usually stop at least that amount but probably 3/4 dry. At this drying point there is less chance of mildew formation if MF are place in a storage container. You will notice a significant decrease in towel-to-towel static.

I am meticulous about folding them also, which tends to negate/lessen any towel-to-towel static creation if sepatated later. You will notice that when partially dry there is a great deal less static when removing from dryer and separating prior to folding.



I rotate my stock so the first being used are the furthest time-wise away from the drying cycle and folding procedure. Most MF's dissipate their drying charge with-in 24 hours.



Hope this helps.
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+1. That's great information.
 
mgm121499 said:
I own a black Tahoe daily driver/garaged, and have experienced just the opposite of what you are seeing. Maybe our processes are different? What Zaino products are on your paint, and what are you doing for upkeep (wash frequency, products, steps, etc...)? Do you keep your vehicle outside or garaged?



For maintenance, I use Z7 wash, and Z6/Z8 mix for QD during my drying process. I dry using a leaf blower & WW drying towels. I wash once a week, or after it rains (whichever comes first).



I'm not going to say that I don't get any dust on the paint, but I've found that I get significantly less dust attraction on my paint vs. most any other product that I've used. This is especially noticeable when I run through rain. My paint looks much cleaner vs. other black vehicles, and debris doesn't latch onto the paint.



During pollen season, it's a lost cause. Black paint & pollen = constant dusty paint.



Maybe you should top 1/2 of your hood with the product that you used to use (which attracted less dust), for comparison :confused:
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Right now I have (2) coats of Z5, (2) coats of Z2 followed by Z6. I wash no more than 2 times a week.



Yes my vehicle is garaged.



I honestly have never hear of pollen collecting on vehicles. Does it look exactly like dust?

Maybe this is why my allergies is soo bad, haha.\



To tell you the truth, up to this point I have only Waxed my truck twice with Zymol. And I have owned my truck for almost 3 years. I am new to the waxing part of detailing.
 
LQ9SS said:
Where do I buy that?
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Finish Kare 1 or FK1usa.com

425 is a quick detailer with anti static.



I also store my MF towls in a storage container after they have been washed "which by chance they are perfictly folded on top of each other :) ".

and always applying a QD to the towel before it touches the paint, bye to static

and 425 does the job it was made for.
 
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