Zaino CS @ 6 Months - Durability Update

joshtpa said:
I have both a black truck and a white car. So are you saying that the people that report that CS "looks outstanding" are missing something?
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:nixweiss



I'll find out soon enough. To this point, all details done in FL (Daytona Area) with Zaino have been met with enthusiastic comments, months later.



I can't wait until they see ZAIO/CS :chuckle:



Hell, I'm supposed to be on vacation next week and have folks badgering me for details :wall
 
joshtpa said:
I have both a black truck and a white car. So are you saying that the people that report that CS "looks outstanding" are missing something?
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Prep determines everything. PS on a crappy finish will look crappy. Zaino on a crappy finish will look crappy. Zaino on a well prepped finish will look great. My experience has been that when I've applied Z-CS over other Zaino products it's kicked the wetness and gloss up a notch. If your finish doesn't look outstanding I'd suggest prepping with Menzerna FP2 and see if it improves. Oddly enough not every person has the ability to see exactly the same as others(for instance some women are able to discern color shades that men don't seem to be able too) it may simply be that some people here have better eyes than others.
 
wannafbody said:
Remember CS is clear and glossy so it simply locks in the look of what is under it.
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That is why I'd prefer to simply add another layer of Z5 or use Z8 on it. I just want a little more 'bling' than I get from CS.
 
That's great that it lasted that long... pretty amazing :)



I agree with Scott, I prefer the look of Z8 to the CS... tried it but just didn't get the gloss the Z8 has or Z5pro.
 
wannafbody said:
Prep determines everything. PS on a crappy finish will look crappy. Zaino on a crappy finish will look crappy. Zaino on a well prepped finish will look great. My experience has been that when I've applied Z-CS over other Zaino products it's kicked the wetness and gloss up a notch. If your finish doesn't look outstanding I'd suggest prepping with Menzerna FP2 and see if it improves. Oddly enough not every person has the ability to see exactly the same as others(for instance some women are able to discern color shades that men don't seem to be able too) it may simply be that some people here have better eyes than others.
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true true!



Prep is a key to any detail. I am a prep mad man and I wish I could cure myself. I do not have ocd with anything, but the past year I have been so bad with prep and I am down to using a magnify glass:shocked . I now have ocd prep disease!:hairpull



I am so addicted to ZPC so bad:help:
 
Couple more months and it will match the OCW at 8 months you had on your moms minivan.



Nice results for a single application.



Anthony
 
Scottwax said:
That is why I'd prefer to simply add another layer of Z5 or use Z8 on it. I just want a little more 'bling' than I get from CS.
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My thoughts exactly. I think that most people are seeing these beautiful results because of what is under the CS not the CS itself.
 
wannafbody said:
Prep determines everything. PS on a crappy finish will look crappy. Zaino on a crappy finish will look crappy. Zaino on a well prepped finish will look great. My experience has been that when I've applied Z-CS over other Zaino products it's kicked the wetness and gloss up a notch. If your finish doesn't look outstanding I'd suggest prepping with Menzerna FP2 and see if it improves. Oddly enough not every person has the ability to see exactly the same as others(for instance some women are able to discern color shades that men don't seem to be able too) it may simply be that some people here have better eyes than others.
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Or that some people are seeing things because they want to see things.
 
It very well could be, but the facts that it is a clear finish. Most people are seeing the prep work and the other zaino products that under it in most cases. My opinion is that (and its just my opinion) people are seeing wonderful durability based on what they are putting underneath the CS, not from the CS alone. I tried the CS and got almost nothing. But when I use z5 pro, the durability is outstanding. So is the ZAIO.
 
joshtpa said:
It very well could be, but the facts that it is a clear finish. Most people are seeing the prep work and the other zaino products that under it in most cases. My opinion is that (and its just my opinion) people are seeing wonderful durability based on what they are putting underneath the CS, not from the CS alone. I tried the CS and got almost nothing. But when I use z5 pro, the durability is outstanding. So is the ZAIO.
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I used CS and ZAIO (beta) back in early Dec on a black GMC topkick. The cab of the truck got a light polish with ZPC and CS applied. The bed of the truck got ZAIO applied by PC. It has been sitting outside for the last 2 months parked under some trees. The owner said he took it to the coin-op the other day to blast the pollen off. He said the paint was still beading on both sections.



As soon as ZAIO gives up on my beater, I will give CS a try with no other products on the car. The car is garaged at night, but does get parked at the airport for 45 hours a week where I work.
 
gmblack3a said:
Could it be possible that the opposite is true as well? :nixweiss
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No idea. What I have done is applied it over proper prep over a single panel and letting it cure for 30 minutes, then seeing what the difference is side by side with a panel that was prepped only. There is a difference but it is pretty subtle...and simply based on the product name, that is how it is supposed to work. Leave a clear seal over what you have done. Just doesn't have that "wow" factor over proper prep that Acrylic Jett, Z5 Pro or Z8 has, at least to my eyes.



I will say on a vehicle that hadn't been waxed in 3 months, that Clear Seal made a more noticable difference, similar to what you'd get from Meguiars #16.
 
joshtpa said:
Or that some people are seeing things because they want to see things.
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Thanks for calling me a liar. My self esteem has been immessurably damaged. I'm off to see my therapist.:hide:



BTW-that's why Sal offers several different products. Not everybody agrees on which product they prefer best.
 
wannafbody said:
Thanks for calling me a liar. My self esteem has been immessurably damaged. I'm off to see my therapist.:hide:



BTW-that's why Sal offers several different products. Not everybody agrees on which product they prefer best.
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I in no way meant this towards you. I was making a generalization on what people like to see.
 
Today I helped the owner detail his wife's silver GP:



ZAIO via PC

Z2pro

CS



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The owner will apply some Z8 tomorrow or after the next wash.



I asked the owner after the CS dried if it looked any better to him compared to after Z2pro, he said the paint looked deeper and had more gloss. I agree, its pretty much what I see after using CS each time.



He took those pics with his rebel XT.
 
gmblack3a said:
I asked the owner after the CS dried if it looked any better to him compared to after Z2pro, he said the paint looked deeper and had more gloss. I agree, its pretty much what I see after using CS each time.



He took those pics with his rebel XT.
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I agree Brian. I would say the amount of change is equivalent to adding a second coat of wax over a wax. Subtle differences but IMHO noticeable enough. Of course different colors react different. My Millennium Yellow explodes with a CS topping(s) but my daily driver emerald green (dark) takes on a more mellow carnuaba-like warmth. Each change augments the beauty of the 2 different colors.:xyxthumbs





Oh yeah. Looks like another great detail.:bow
 
joshtpa said:
If it is a completely optical spray, how could it explode with differences? I am really very curious.
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Just because a product is clear doesn't mean that it doesn't increase gloss and wetness. Color is caused by the light reflecting back to the eye. Any change in how that light is reflected or refracted back to the eye determines a perceivable change in color or appearance. Which ultimately causes one to ponder the age old question as to wether a car that sits in the forest with no eye to see it really has any color at all:think: :confused:
 
I used CS for the first time today. I was impressed by the ease of application and the results on trim. The look was ok, sort of a mix between Z5/Z2 imo; but I didn't like it as much as I tend to like Z5pro. An interesting product for sure, I appreciate that Sal pushes the envelope.
 
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