Z/28 confirmed

xspwrstang said:
I wouldn't doubt it if the window price turns out around 55k. I always thought the z/28 was a base and the SS was the bigger horsepower option?
Click to expand...



The Z/28 is bare bones..built more for the track rather than show...I dont

think it has ever been a more HP car than SS..maybe the same though.

I think they will probably keep the price well below the vette's..no sence in

competing with there self...But you never know.
 
camaroDan said:
The Z/28 is bare bones..built more for the track rather than show...I dont

think it has ever been a more HP car than SS..maybe the same though.

I think they will probably keep the price well below the vette's..no sence in

competing with there self...But you never know.
Click to expand...



The Z/28 will return as the top model, not a stripped out track car. Its already confirmed to have the CTS-V LSA supercharged motor putting out 556hp.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is still speculation that the Z/28 will be released. No official information has been released by GM.



I was at the OC auto show where Scott Settlemire (one of the managers for the Camaro), the "F-Bod Father" was there and we got to talk Camaros. (he also signed my car) He mentioned no such thing about the Z/28 getting released yet. He didn't rule it out, but it's not going to come soon either.



Also, to quote a member from Camaro5.com who is also a GM employee (he got to drive the third camaro off the line as part of the CTF),





Number 3 said:
As the Z28 hasn't been announced, I'm not sure I believe an announcement about it being cancelled.



The other thread in the Z forum is raising that question.



The biggest threat to cars with V8 engines and high horsepower is CAFE. GM still has to enable the Pickups and Full SUVs. There is a lot of money in those products.



The single biggest reason GM had to go through bankruptcy was the titanic hit to sales of those vehicles. Gas hit 4/gallon and people instantly quit buying full size pickups and SUVs.
Click to expand...



His response can be seen here. Shno's House of Z - Page 65 - Camaro Forum - 2010 Camaro / Camaro Z28 SS Forums - Camaro5.com



He wrote that just yesterday. I'm positive he would have something to tell us on that forum before Motor Trend.



Btw, I drive a 2010 Camaro SS



IMG_0310.jpg
 
JuneBug said:
I had one of the rarest Z's ever, a 1972 - only made 2575 that year. Sold it - Doh!!!
Click to expand...



Not exactly...my 1992 Z28 camaro has the 5.7 in it!the vette motor!they only made supposedly 705 1LE thats the heritage edition!with the L98(5.7 corvette motor)they have a book on camaros by john gunnel its called standard catalog of camaros 1967-2002! and he says the only made 4.3 of the annual sales where 5.7!ok heres something that shows it pretty good...Welcome To Camarosource.ca  - Internet's Largest Most Complete Camaro Resource Site
 
Ehhh I used to design for GM. and I quit there right when they started the talks with Canada about getting the Camaro back up and running... IMO they missed the boat with this whole "Let's bring Retro Back" If the Camaro was the first to hit the market it would've done well I think. But it's the very last to hit the market (As usual with anything GM does) the Mustang, Charger, and Challanger have already grabbed that retro crowd for the most part. There's a couple of die hards here and there. But I don't think there's enough out there to sustain the 300,000 units a year this line needs to produce. I'll personally be very impressed if the camaro is even still around in a few years. They killed it off for a reason.. THat reason is still alive and well today Nothing has changed. And I have no idea why they thought it would. To late to save it I say.
 
RedlineIRL said:
If the Z28 really does come out I'll be surprised. With Fritz and Co it's been back and forth wether or not it will be produced. I think they should go for it to give some competition to the GT500
Click to expand...



It's coming for sure. With the cuts the UAW took they can afford to build it now.
 
Oh I don't doubt it's outselling all of those right now. It's still new so everyone needs that new flavor. But it needs to sell 300,000 units a year every year to maintain it's viability in GM's program. I don't see it being able to do that for too long. I mean just now are we actually starting to see them stock up on dealer lots. so the rush is just now starting to fade. I think next year it will do quite well also. then maye in 2011 when the vert hit's the streets it'll get another push. But then after that... Unless something odd happens (huge boost to the economy, huge price drop or something along those lines) I think it will fade off pretty fast in sales.
 
Jakerooni said:
Oh I don't doubt it's outselling all of those right now. It's still new so everyone needs that new flavor. But it needs to sell 300,000 units a year every year to maintain it's viability in GM's program. I don't see it being able to do that for too long. I mean just now are we actually starting to see them stock up on dealer lots. so the rush is just now starting to fade. I think next year it will do quite well also. then maye in 2011 when the vert hit's the streets it'll get another push. But then after that... Unless something odd happens (huge boost to the economy, huge price drop or something along those lines) I think it will fade off pretty fast in sales.
Click to expand...



Umm, it doesn't have to sell 300,000 units a year.



Hell, they can't even make 300,000 units a year. They started building the Camaro in Oshawa back on March 16th. Today is December 8th... so let's say it's been 9 months so far. And, to this date, about 75,000 Camaros have been built.



Now mind you, this has been at full production. Still to this day many dealers have a backlog of orders; supply is catching up to demand but it hasn't quite caught up yet.





Anyways, what I'm saying is that if they have been producing the Camaro nonstop for 9 months at full production (the guys on the line have told us at Camaro5 that they also are getting quite a bit of overtime), and they still have only made 75,000, where the hell did you get this magic 300,000 from?



Your number is completely unfounded. if GM needed that many sales to be profitable, they would have decided to build the Camaro in a plant that is capable of making that many.
 
it could be a low number line for now. They can't build the camaro in any other plant other that Oshawa per contracts with the CAW. regardless if they wanted to or not. Now this is before the Government take over of GM. They may have busted the contracts up or have the ability too. But last I knew Oshawa was going to be the only place the camaro would ever be allowed to be built at. So you maybe right on that low number. I know outside of the vette and the caddy's GM has always wanted thier line running 250,000-300,000 units a year... But again that would be multiple plants producing them not just one.
 
last i read, camaros were backordered by like 18,000 units



every daddy's girl will own a 6 cyl mustang vert..... it has always been that way.



the camaro is serving as a kick in the buttocks for GM sales....every little bit helps.



but i have 1 fear... and that is what happens next ? when the retro stang came out the 1st question was, " how will they change the look next ?"



what styling cues will change or be modified.....how do you improve upon a 1st gen retro camaro ??



i hope it is not short lived...... but what kind of goofy design would they come up with as a possible 6th gen 3-5 years from now
 
gav'spurplez said:
last i read, camaros were backordered by like 18,000 units



every daddy's girl will own a 6 cyl mustang vert..... it has always been that way.



the camaro is serving as a kick in the buttocks for GM sales....every little bit helps.



but i have 1 fear... and that is what happens next ? when the retro stang came out the 1st question was, " how will they change the look next ?"



what styling cues will change or be modified.....how do you improve upon a 1st gen retro camaro ??



i hope it is not short lived...... but what kind of goofy design would they come up with as a possible 6th gen 3-5 years from now
Click to expand...



Cafe standards will kick in and American V8's will be a thing of the past.
 
gofast908z said:
thats what doomsdayers said in the 70's too.
Click to expand...



Yeah, but last time it was OPEC that caused oil prices to skyrocket.



now it's rising demand from china and india. We can't send Nixon over to china and ask "can you stop using oil, pretty please?"



Supply and demand, yo.
 
Every five years or so, we read about the 'death of the supercar/musclecar/ponycar/roadster...' and it's never happened. Oh yeah, we've had some people drop out and come back, some bad design, some power drop off.



But the gearheads are still alive, and buying these cars. I can't remember what year, but it was in the 2000's and the headline read - death of the V8. So much for that idea.



I hope GM produces a ton, and the resale is a bit more affordable. I priced one earlier this year, but a 2SS (which had everything I wanted) was out of bounds. I hope to pick up a 4th gen in the next year or so for my DD, and hopefully a 5th gen will follow in a few years.
 
CocheseUGA said:
Every five years or so, we read about the 'death of the supercar/musclecar/ponycar/roadster...' and it's never happened. Oh yeah, we've had some people drop out and come back, some bad design, some power drop off.
Click to expand...



Show me a muscle car from 1978 to 1989. There was nothing fast during that period. It may have had a V8 but it was gutless during that time period.
 
Partially Deaf said:
Yeah, but last time it was OPEC that caused oil prices to skyrocket.



now it's rising demand from china and india. We can't send Nixon over to china and ask "can you stop using oil, pretty please?"



Supply and demand, yo.
Click to expand...





Still won't happen. The public wouldn't allow it (gearheads, people who like their V8's, people who use trucks for work etc.). Don't believe the hype.
 
although it wasnt a V8 the turbo GN was quick.... for the time.

the gnx was faster than the vette at the time



there are a few beloved cars from 78-89 that people still own, restore and modify.



i'm a msucle car guy, even though i didnt grow up in the era....chevy bowtie for life
 
gav'spurplez said:
although it wasnt a V8 the turbo GN was quick.... for the time.

the gnx was faster than the vette at the time



there are a few beloved cars from 78-89 that people still own, restore and modify.



i'm a msucle car guy, even though i didnt grow up in the era....chevy bowtie for life
Click to expand...



I'll give you the GNX but truly, that was it! The Japanese 6's would outrun pretty much everything out there that was supposed to be muscular. Man, IROC Camaro's ran 17.x 1/4 miles. Auto Civic's were that fast!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top