Wool, what am I missing?

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Mindflux

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I've always polished with Foam as long as I've had a PC 7424, but with a Rotary coming I want to check out wool.



What I don't get about wool though is why there isn't a gamut of abrasive levels like there is for Foam from anyone BUT Edge (which in turn makes the Presta line)?



Is there no need to go that 'all out' with wool? Can you polish it down with a white or yellow wool pad from AG (mild/med cut) and then do your glaze/LSP with foam (which is ideal anyway)...



I'm a bit confused about this since I'm not familiar with wool.
 
Most wool manufacturers that I know of have several layers of wool abrasiveness. We carry a few from LCM and they have a ton more.
 
Wool just flat works better via rotary than a stiff foam cutting pad. Follows the contours of the vehicle a lot better and leaves less marring to clean up.
 
Thanks everyone. I was just trying to figure out why I see Edge has black/yellow/blue/green/white or whatever and it seems nobody else has a comparable system.
 
Mindflux said:
Thanks everyone. I was just trying to figure out why I see Edge has black/yellow/blue/green/white or whatever and it seems nobody else has a comparable system.
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In 1994 when we launched the Edge system, there were only two choices of foam basically. Yellow for cutting and Grey for polishing. We could not figure out why you would want to use the most abrasive pad for every job so we invented and launched a 5 colored texture foam line which was soon copied by all our competitors. When we decided to enter the wool pad business we saw the same dilema that the only pads offered were White 100% wool twisted for cutting and a Yellow Blended wool/acrylic for polishing. We then launched the first wool pad line to offer 5 colored textures and our wool matched our foam in color and texture. You want and need the ability to choose the right pad for the job without being forced to use the most abrasive pad. You actually want to start with the least abrasive combination of pad and chemical to see if you get the right results first before reaching for the more abrasive combo and removing more paint or causing damage.



Hope this little history helps.



Aaron
 
The Edge said:
In 1994 when we launched the Edge system, there were only two choices of foam basically. Yellow for cutting and Grey for polishing. We could not figure out why you would want to use the most abrasive pad for every job so we invented and launched a 5 colored texture foam line which was soon copied by all our competitors. When we decided to enter the wool pad business we saw the same dilema that the only pads offered were White 100% wool twisted for cutting and a Yellow Blended wool/acrylic for polishing. We then launched the first wool pad line to offer 5 colored textures and our wool matched our foam in color and texture. You want and need the ability to choose the right pad for the job without being forced to use the most abrasive pad. You actually want to start with the least abrasive combination of pad and chemical to see if you get the right results first before reaching for the more abrasive combo and removing more paint or causing damage.



Hope this little history helps.



Aaron
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Aaron,

Thank you. It does help :)



I just like to cover my bases. Do I need 5 or 6 levels of Wool and Foam every time? No.. but if I need it and I don't have it I'm in for more work or a job I cannot complete.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Wait! The wool afficionados didn't even get here yet, to talk about foamed, twisted, untwisted, sheared from organic sheep, etc.
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Do android detailers dream of wool pads sheared from electric sheep?



Tort
 
TortoiseAWD said:
Do android detailers dream of wool pads sheared from electric sheep?
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"Do you think we were all created for a purpose? I'd like to think so.

[looks at his arm, musing] Denser alloy...my father gave it to me. I think he wanted me to kill you."



Sonny, from the movie, I, Robot. (My favorite line)
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Wait! The wool afficionados didn't even get here yet, to talk about foamed, twisted, untwisted, sheared from organic sheep, etc.
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And don't even get us started on semi-electrified, untwisted, foamed, organic Australian Lambs wool from Queensland! The stuff just *rocks*! Especially when it's purple.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
"Do you think we were all created for a purpose? I'd like to think so.

[looks at his arm, musing] Denser alloy...my father gave it to me. I think he wanted me to kill you."



Sonny, from the movie, I, Robot. (My favorite line)
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I love that movie! I TiVo'd it one night over a year ago, and it's still taking up drive space. I still watch it about once per month.
 
But OT...My favorite sheep:



1. 6.5" LC Purple Foamed Wool. One of the very nicest medium correction pads out there. When used with big guns (like M105, although it can gum up the pad) you can get serious correction work done and still finish off nice enough to go to your finishing polish most of the time.



2. The entire Edge 2000 six inch wool line. The black wool pad works very nicely on hard GM paint that's messed up enough to warrant a good compounding. Lot's of correction. The yellow is almost equal to the purple foamed wool. Maybe just a bit more bite, but it doesn't finish down as well as the purple foamed. Green or blue is great for mild corrections. These pads don't hologram nearly as much as most other wool pads do. Not unusual to have the green or blue finish out LSP ready depending on CC and polish used. White finishing wool. Don't even get me started. I love this pad. It leaves a warm glowy carnauba look. Yes, you can get more shine with a foam finishing pad, but the finishing wool leaves a great look, and can be used along with a good finishing polish right after compounding. It'll get out compounding marks and holograms much faster than an LC white foam will, while running cooler on the paint.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
"Do you think we were all created for a purpose? I'd like to think so.

[looks at his arm, musing] Denser alloy...my father gave it to me. I think he wanted me to kill you."



Sonny, from the movie, I, Robot. (My favorite line)
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I was thinking of this android, and the novel the movie was based on:



"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.

I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Time to die."



Tort
 
OK, Setec and Tort, let's see how good your obscure Sci-Fi trivia skills are. Can you name this movie?



"Can you see if you can fashion some sort of rudimentary lathe?"
 
TortoiseAWD said:
I was thinking of this android, and the novel the movie was based on:



"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.

I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Time to die."
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The electric sheep quote sounded familiar, but I forgot that was the name of the novel on which Blade Runner was based.



SuperBee364 said:
OK, Setec and Tort, let's see how good your obscure Sci-Fi trivia skills are. Can you name this movie?



"Can you see if you can fashion some sort of rudimentary lathe?"
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Nah...I don't know that one...I only know about transparent aluminum...
 
SuperBee364 said:
OK, Setec and Tort, let's see how good your obscure Sci-Fi trivia skills are. Can you name this movie?



"Can you see if you can fashion some sort of rudimentary lathe?"
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I had to resort to Google. Seen the movie, didn't remember the line.



With Google, *nothing* is obscure. :)



Never give up, never surrender!

Tort
 
Scottwax said:
Wool just flat works better via rotary than a stiff foam cutting pad. Follows the contours of the vehicle a lot better and leaves less marring to clean up.
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Scott, which line of wool pads do you like the best?



I remember a few days ago you were talking about using a white foamed wool pad. Did you ask your sales rep who made it? I have never heard of it. Is it similar to the purple foamed wool or is it used to clean up after the purple foamed wool?
 
Will a finishing wool pad leave less hologramming than finishing foam pad using the same finishing product like Ultrafina SE?
 
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