Will this replace the Microfiber Pad?

WhyteWizard said:
I look forward to you testing my logic and getting back to us.



In forced rotation, I think you'll find that the pad does hold the abrasive against the paint better because the nap isn't moving one direction then the other, braking the abrasives loose and absorbing them or having to cover all sides of the fibers. In effect, when a pad moves in one direction the fibers lay down in one direction and form a continuous surface, after that, the fibers just flex to accommodate variations in the surface. Also, I always run my cutters dry enough so the abrasives don't roll around or slurry on the paint, while wet enough to avoid marring. I get a much cleaner cut on the paint that way and a much cleaner job over all. Little to no sling.



All the best,

Robert



Both physics and I support your logic ;)
 
Interesting find... I am curious to hear what you guys think when trying these pads out. As for the last question on the Optimum MF Cutting pad and rotary combo. I love mine! Every paint is different with them depending on the speed you need to use and pressure, etc but they are easy to get used to and do not leave ribbons in the paint like a wool/foam blend pad would or a foam cutting pad. They do leave minor marks but not very deep at all and the Polishing MF pads take care of those marks. Finish up with a black finish pad and finish polish and you have a nice paint surface!
 
Shawn F. said:
Interesting find... I am curious to hear what you guys think when trying these pads out. As for the last question on the Optimum MF Cutting pad and rotary combo. I love mine! Every paint is different with them depending on the speed you need to use and pressure, etc but they are easy to get used to and do not leave ribbons in the paint like a wool/foam blend pad would or a foam cutting pad. They do leave minor marks but not very deep at all and the Polishing MF pads take care of those marks. Finish up with a black finish pad and finish polish and you have a nice paint surface!



I find that the opt microfibre pads suck up alot of product when using by rotary whereas the dynabrade head on the rotary keeps the product on the surface and never makes a mess (splatterless)



agree about the wool and ribbons thing. I swear that there is too much gap between the wool strands. a brand new wool pad used on a rotary can miss small spots when buffing half a rear fender or door. their better to work with when they are worn down to about 1 inch thick or less. though I aint used one in several months
 
I wish they would put the velcro all the way to the edge of the foam - according to KBM this with a backing plate of the same size, one can get even higher cut.



pretty impressive to remove peel with a foam pad, I do that with denim and velvet and get no marring on most paints. the omega pad looks awesome, must give it a whirl sometime.

as for defect removal, I like surbuf, rayon and microfibre rather than foam but hey each to their own
 
Talked to my local distributor who carries a few meguiars products and he stopped selling those because most of the guys who tried them out of his 200 some accounts said they took to long to cut or didn't cut blah blah. But i should have a sample mf cutting pad from buff n shine in a week or so....



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Flexipads have some very sweet microfibre pads in cutting and finishing

They make them from 50mm to 180mm I believe, check the site - flexipads.com



Megs work well no doubt and optimum arent too bad either

I think nanoskin had some microfibre pads due for release last year.



Anyhow I'm moving on to testing Leather pads from another industry in a couple weeks. two types available - no velcro on them though - gotta sort that out myself
 
Shane.belzers said:
Talked to my local distributor who carries a few meguiars products and he stopped selling those because most of the guys who tried them out of his 200 some accounts said they took to long to cut or didn't cut blah blah. But i should have a sample mf cutting pad from buff n shine in a week or so....



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Are we talking about body shops? And did he offer any training to them?



Most likely they were either:



1) Expecting the pads to cut out 1000-1200 grit sanding marks in only a couple passes (short-cycling)



or



2) He wasn't providing them with proper training of how to use the Microfiber system.
 
Mostly dealerships where they were in the hands of detailers all over MN, ranging from BMW-Chev and everything in between. Like i tried telling him saying they take to long or dont work is subjective when maybe they were not being used with the right product or in the proper way? I planned on using with HD products, cut, uno etc... using a DA. But i dont know either way ill have some buff n shines ones to try and im still planning on ordering the meguiars via retail if i have to to get my own opinion on the product. I mention to him what you guys said online and he assumes im speaking mostly to ppl who are just garage enthusiast's etc... Even though lots of people here have done high volume dealer work/ used car lots stuff like me... Hes a sales men though what does he know :p



C. Charles Hahn said:
Are we talking about body shops? And did he offer any training to them? (short-cycling)



Most likely they were either:



1) Expecting the pads to cut out 1000-1200 grit sanding marks in only a couple passes



or



2) He wasn't providing them with proper training of how to use the Microfiber system.
 
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