Will power needed

mrclean81 said:
You also have to consider how angry the big tobacco companies are over this. The little e cigs are ok, but they don't have a good success rate. When you get into the bigger more powerful mods that operate off of a juice that the user actually likes and picks out, the success rate is high. Big tobacco HATES this, and lobbies vigarously against it. The truth is that there is usually 3 or 4 ingredients in vape juice. VG (vegetable glycerin, PG (propylene glycol), water, and nicotine, + whatever flavoring that particular juice calls for. That's it..now how many hundreds of chemicals are in a cigarette?
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Just the fact that the "smoke" is way cooler and there is no carbon monoxide makes it an instant win to me. You're right a lot of it is the tobacco lobby...it's a little bit of a parallel to the coal lobby.

Here's an interesting question for you vapers--where does the nicotine in e-cigs come from? Is it produced in a lab, or is it extracted from tobacco?
 
That's a good question. I honestly don't know the answer to it though. More and more people out in vape land are making their own juice, and buying the nicotine in highly concentrated amounts. I could find out really easily because now I'm curious as well.
 
mrclean81 said:
That's a good question. I honestly don't know the answer to it though. More and more people out in vape land are making their own juice, and buying the nicotine in highly concentrated amounts. I could find out really easily because now I'm curious as well.
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As Ron was saying, the tobacco companies are buying up the e-cig companies, if the nicotine comes from tobacco, then ultimately the tobacco companies won't be hurt by e-cigs, and perhaps their lobbying pressure (if they have any left!) will improve the acceptance of e-cigs.
 
I hope so. They just had a big ordeal with the FDA over it. To my knowledge, there hasn't been a ruling yet, but it was about the regulation and such. The big companies that sell their crappy juice and mods at every gas station in the country wouldn't be hurt by it, mostly because they are owned by the big companies. Who it WOULD hurt (or completely shut down) is the small mom n pop juice companies. There is no way a small company could afford the testing and all the be the FDA would make them go through. All that would be left would be a handful of bigger high end companies, and a bunch of gas station juice.
 
mrclean81 said:
I hope so. They just had a big ordeal with the FDA over it. To my knowledge, there hasn't been a ruling yet, but it was about the regulation and such. The big companies that sell their crappy juice and mods at every gas station in the country wouldn't be hurt by it, mostly because they are owned by the big companies. Who it WOULD hurt (or completely shut down) is the small mom n pop juice companies. There is no way a small company could afford the testing and all the be the FDA would make them go through. All that would be left would be a handful of bigger high end companies, and a bunch of gas station juice.
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They were trying to get cigs under fda too. (it may have happened)
 
You can do it Ronkh. I quit 2 Years, 3 Months & 12 days ago. The first year was tough. Especially the first 3-6 months

Cancer runs deep in my family. I didn't want to die a cigarette smoker full of regret

P.S. The nitemares IMO were kinda fun. I dreamed I had dinner with John Wayne - West Memphis Arkansas was to become the next Manhattan - I harbored a KGB agent

Fun Times !!!
 
I quit 5 years ago with the patch. I knew I had a problem when I was smoking over a pack a day and two packs if I went out to a bar with some friends. I was the type of person that truly enjoyed smoking. When I decided to quit the idea of the crazy dreams turned me off of chantix, so I went for the patch. It was extremely tough for me to hang out at a bar because everyone would be smoking. I really felt like Ricky Bobby in his first interview on Talladega Nights, "I don't know what to do with my hands?". Lol. So I started wearing a rubberband and would pop my wrist if I wanted a cigarette. I really think it helped break my habit faster. But you have to find what works for you.
 
They used to say nicotine was the most addictive substance known to man, until the advent of crack cocaine (so nicotine was more addictive than heroin or regular cocaine).

Of course now they changed all that and I think now they say Twinkies are the most addictive...

How ya doin', Ron?
 
Sounds like you're doing good. Once you make it past the three day mark it gets a lot easier.

:bigups
 
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