David Fermani said:
Book work and college teach you very little about the real world unfortunately. Some of the greatest business people I know don't have any formal education.
Looking back, I learned more life long valuable information about the business world selling cars, managing a car wash and owning a detail business then I did by wasting 5 years of my life securing a Marketing/Management degree. Sure, it looks great on a resume and is a prerequisite for many corporate jobs, but I'd much rather consider hiring someone (for a business position) that learned from the school of hard knocks then someone that was fresh out of college without any credible work experience.
Degrees don't make you successful, but they are a start. I don't use college to get me a job, I use it as an opportunity to learn from others. I do not go to a traditional 4-year college. Most of the people are in their 30's-50's and "re-inventing" themselves. I network with these individuals and learn from their experience. I'm also majoring in Entrepreneurship and learning from teachers and mentors that have survived the test of time and become successful.
"A formal education will make you a living; self-education will make you a fortune." Jim Cohn, mentor to Tony Robbins.
I just stated I am pursuing a degree and look at things differently. Some people want to be the best, some just want to make a living. I do quality work, I'm not shady and I stand behind all of it. I even offer a money-back guarantee and ALL my customers understand what this means. I will force my customers to listen to me and agree to my terms, lol. I protect myself, I'm not saying that's not on the table.
Flash Gordon said:
Right here I have a problem. For washes to be worth my while, I have to charge $100+. Not many are willing to pay that (which I understand)
I have no idea what people do to mantain their finishes after they leave my place. I would imagine many use the tunnel wash or the $10 parking lot guy despite my plea not to
I'm not dead set against your idea, and as a matter of fact have been looking into adding a permanent coating line. I just don't wanna get stuck with some psyhco whackjob that can never be pleased
Sorry if I offended you :dance
As a new business, I can afford to wash cars bi-weekly. Right now it's a marketing opportunity. When I break out the wash mat, say hi to people as they walk/drive by and get to know people in the neighborhood, I am constantly marketing my services. Until I am busy enough to require minimums, it's an opportunity cost I'm willing to take. It's working well for me.
Again, I started the business to learn hands on. I am not concerned about making a full-time living off this stuff. As said, it's hard work and I've already got bad knees and a screwy back. Even if I wanted to, I could not stay on the labor side of things for too long. I am destined to be behind a desk, and behind a desk, you have to think differently. NOT unethically, I am NOT about that. Is it unethical for people to put things on layway? Is it unethical for people to pay interest on credit cards? (the rates, maybe, the idea, no).
For instance. For monthly maintenance plans I require customers to pay $200 up front. They get weekly washes, monthly waxes and bi-annual details. In the end they save up to $200 from paying my regular pricing. However, I get $200 up front. Is that unethical? I don't think so. I haven't had a customer think it was. If they did, well I have other options for them.
ExplicitDetails said:
Quenga, I have to ask, going back to your original post, where you say this: "Why does everyone call them a gimmick and bash dealerships for swindling customers? Why are detailers forcing their opinions of quality and good business practice down their customers throat?"
Why do you make this statement on your website: "Do NOT purchase any dealership or detail shop paint or fabric protection plan. They are gimmicks and filled with fine print that will shock you!" ?
You're right, I wrote that, because I had my head pointed in a different direction. I wrote it a long time ago and never fixed it. A conversation I was having with a few other entrepreneurs spiked my interest. Research on other warranties and companies already offering these services (CarPro/Optimum) changed my point of view.
Are the dealerships really selling a gimmick? That's the question I asked myself. As someone mentioned above, someone gets their car worked on twice a year. I think she's getting her monies worth. Am I suggesting you sell the same warranty? No. Can we, together, as independent thinkers, detailers, professionals...come up with a better warranty? One that is more up front with customers? The dealers can afford to clean the car twice a year, we can't, so why would we imply this in the warranty?
From my point of view, it's good for detailers, better for customers to buy a warranty from us than the dealership. When you purchase a warranty from a dealership you are paying a commission to the sales person, a commission to the dealership and an underwriting fee to the insurance/warranty company. Do they hope you don't come back? Probably, but health, car, dental, vision, unemployment, medicare and social security all hope you don't collect either. To me, that's too much of a cynical point of view. Do some think that way, yes, I do not deny that.
Again, can we offer a BETTER warranty for our customers? We already charge extra for a better service. People already charge extra for Opti-Coat. Did I once think the dealerships were complete bastards? Yes. Do I see an opportunity to offer a BETTER warranty that benefits the detailer and the customer? I think so.
What if I came up with a warranty program that all detailers could buy in nationally. The fund would be the insurance for the disaster scenarios. You can require customers to come back to you. I already tell my customers I don't guarantee anything done by any other detailer or car wash. If they don't use me for all maintenance, they don't get any warranty. That includes my headlight restorations. IF the customer doesn't agree to my terms, they don't get the warranty. I protect myself and keep them as a regular. If not, I do not agree to any warranty, guarantee, promise or other such insurance.
It's only the spark of an idea. I realize there is much more to it. Unlike most of you guys, I have the time to dive into this. This IS what I started my business for. I don't need to detail to make money. I have already learned a lot from everyone's input. Both for and against it. I think it's possible. Google is "just another search engine", why would they ever take on Yahoo!??