Why does everyone use ONR?

Zet said:
You'll be using several MF towels to dry the car, especially if the car is somewhat dirty. Since the car is not rinsed using ONR, a lot of the dirt gets picked up by the drying towel...
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Not true. The drying towel should remain absolutely clean. Dirt just shows that the washing cycle was incomplete/insufficient. People often have the misconception that you have to do the wash-wipe/dry sequence as a whole. Nonononono.



So, when you clean a dirtier car, lift plenty of water to the area to be cleaned, wash it, then rinse the mitt. Wash it again until completely clean. Then wipe dry. Car is clean, drying towel is clean.
 
I'm a recently converted ONR user, just started back in November last year, and iI have to admit, this product is way beyond awesome! Cuts my working time by like 75% compared to a hose and bucket method. I now use the white/yellow Schmitt, 1 bucket with a grit guard, and I haven't had any problems at all.



About the MF's, I use 2 total, since I don't have a WW yet. I use the first one to dry the car, when that one comes completely damp, I just use it for the first pass, and use the second one for the drying pass. The car looks great, and I will only use the hose if the car is extremely caked with mud.
 
Thanks Scottwax.



I have only used ONR twice. Once with the two bucket system the other with the one bucket system.



The last time using the one bucket system, the water was black, the MF covered sponge was black, but the drying towel was relatively clean. Does this sound like the norm?
 
Malachi said:
Thanks Scottwax.



I have only used ONR twice. Once with the two bucket system the other with the one bucket system.



The last time using the one bucket system, the water was black, the MF covered sponge was black, but the drying towel was relatively clean. Does this sound like the norm?
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Yes, it happens to me all the time I use ONR. That's perfectly normal.
 
Bence said:
Not true. The drying towel should remain absolutely clean. Dirt just shows that the washing cycle was incomplete/insufficient. People often have the misconception that you have to do the wash-wipe/dry sequence as a whole. Nonononono.



So, when you clean a dirtier car, lift plenty of water to the area to be cleaned, wash it, then rinse the mitt. Wash it again until completely clean. Then wipe dry. Car is clean, drying towel is clean.
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Bence, just to be clear, when you "wash it again" are you using a 2 bucket method and "washing" it a 2nd time with the rinse water?
 
I could be wrong, but I believe he's saying that he washes twice with the ONR solution. The rinse water is only to rinse the mitt. His point is that you don't have to wash, and then dry. He washes, rinses his mitt, washes again and then he dries it.
 
would anything happen if you dont dry right after? If you wash the whole car, then dry it after is that a problem with any of the rinseless washes?
 
You don't want it to dry up by itself. One of the benefits of ONR is that because it's a wash and dry system, you don't have to deal with water spots. You want to dry it while it's still wet because the dirt will be suspended in the ONR solution, so when you dry, any leftover dirt that wasn't carried away by your wash mitt or wash towel, will be picked up in your drying pass.



You'd have to be pretty quick and be in the shade or have little sun to wash a whole car completely, and then dry.
 
Darren F said:
would anything happen if you dont dry right after? If you wash the whole car, then dry it after is that a problem with any of the rinseless washes?
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Scottwax said:
It'll leave a film that easily washes off with ONR.
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How much car you can wash before this happens depends on temperature, wind, & probably other factors. When I was washing cars inside this winter I could wash half the car before drying--roof, windows & pillars, hood, & grille; then dry, then wash the rest. Now that it warmed up (well before it cooled off again) I have to wash smaller sections or I'll get the water spots or film, whatever you want to call it.
 
Darren F said:
would anything happen if you dont dry right after? If you wash the whole car, then dry it after is that a problem with any of the rinseless washes?
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Yes this is a problem.



ONR traps dirt. Leaving dirty ONR behind will leave dirt behind.
 
Darren F said:
would anything happen if you dont dry right after? If you wash the whole car, then dry it after is that a problem with any of the rinseless washes?
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Even if that would work fine, why go around the car twice when you only have to go around it one time when you wash and dry as you go?
 
BlackElantraGT said:
I could be wrong, but I believe he's saying that he washes twice with the ONR solution. The rinse water is only to rinse the mitt. His point is that you don't have to wash, and then dry. He washes, rinses his mitt, washes again and then he dries it.
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Correct.



Superstring, sorry for being a bit unclear. Yes you should wash the body again with the solution, until it is completely clean. The final wipe should not show traces of dirt.



When ONR dries on the surface, it may leave grayish spotting/residue. Go over with the solution once more, done.
 
Bence said:
[quote name='BlackElantraGT']

I could be wrong, but I believe he's saying that he washes twice with the ONR solution. The rinse water is only to rinse the mitt. His point is that you don't have to wash, and then dry. He washes, rinses his mitt, washes again and then he dries it.
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Correct.



Superstring, sorry for being a bit unclear. Yes you should wash the body again with the solution, until it is completely clean. The final wipe should not show traces of dirt.[/QUOTE]



Thanks to you both :)
 
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