Why does everyone use ONR?
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I started using it basically because I had no choice. When they put the water restrictions on our city last year, it was either ONR or the local car wash. I went the ONR route, and I wouldn't look back.
It's so nice to be able to wash the cars without having to pull out the hose. Also I don't have to rinse the suds down the driveway when I'm done. When it was cold this winter (cold for TX) I was able to wash them inside the garage with little mess.
I did just order a gallon of the DP 4 in 1. I'll be getting it later this week. I just wanted to give it a try. I still have about 20 oz of ONR just for backup
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I haven't had any problems with ONR and scratches. I think I scratched the paint more when I did regular washes.
Brian
It's so nice to be able to wash the cars without having to pull out the hose. Also I don't have to rinse the suds down the driveway when I'm done. When it was cold this winter (cold for TX) I was able to wash them inside the garage with little mess.
I did just order a gallon of the DP 4 in 1. I'll be getting it later this week. I just wanted to give it a try. I still have about 20 oz of ONR just for backup
.I haven't had any problems with ONR and scratches. I think I scratched the paint more when I did regular washes.
Brian
TwinTowers
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mgm121499 said:
That word "waterless" keeps being used. ONR is not a waterless wash. It is a rinseless wash. I've done my new truck 4 times with the ONR and like the results a lot. I use a spay bottle just before each panel and an extra "rinse" bucket for my MFs.
Big Kahuna
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I just started using ONR. I know the preferred method is one panel at a time with an immediate wipe down. However, I just replaced the product and continue to use a two bucket method, do a final rinse, and wipe down the entire vehicle. Will I be running into problems doing it this way?
I used to use 1Z Perls, but by the time I can wipe the car, some of the product dried and I found spotting on the windows. Now I just wash a few panels and rinse immediately.
Also, what do most of you use to clean your mitt after using ONR?
I used to use 1Z Perls, but by the time I can wipe the car, some of the product dried and I found spotting on the windows. Now I just wash a few panels and rinse immediately.
Also, what do most of you use to clean your mitt after using ONR?
RTexasF
Pay Attention Boy...
I'm looking forward to mine arriving this week. For me, cutting down the time for a regular wash/vac will both consume less time and be more profitable. It may not work in every situation, mud puppy ranch truck for instance, but if it's good enough for Scottwax...........
thesacrifice
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I clean my mitt with Woollite
Why a final rinse?
Why a final rinse?
hifiveo said:
Well this method kind of defies the purpose of using a rinseless wash
A problem with the method could be that the ONR will start to dry on the first panels, possibly trapping some dirt on the paint. You'll also be using more water, and since you add an extra step (the rinse step) it will even take longer too, so what's the advantage?imported_Denzil
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mgm121499 said:
Something is definitely wrong with your technique if ONR is "causing" marring. It's also not a "waterless" wash.
SVTContour
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Getting back to the original question, for me it is faster, much more comfortable in cold weather, and as someone else mentioned, summer water bans are common where I live (Atlanta Metro).
klnyc
Deep scratch guy.
The fastest I can do with ONR(inside and out) is 1:15. If I wax it , probably take another 45min.
Accumulator
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Noting that I'm *NOT* gonna get into a debate about "Accumulator's wash technique vs. Rinseless"...
My only experience with this type of thing is with QEW. Is ONR markedly better than QEW when it comes to avoiding wash-induced marring?
My only experience with this type of thing is with QEW. Is ONR markedly better than QEW when it comes to avoiding wash-induced marring?
Accumulator said:
This is an old thread and by now I have used ONR.
I know my opinion doesn't carry much weight here (basically nothing compared to yours), but the product will not cause marring when used correctly, as simple as that. I actually noticed less marring after using it and a LIGHT hand polish with prime.
Accumulator
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BMW335i said:
Well, the opinions of people who've used ONR oughta carry more weight than any *suppositions* I might have about a product that I haven't used
I've noticed that a number of people who used to use QEW have switched to ONR so it got me curious...I'm not looking to change my wash regimen, but I am genuinely curious about the ONR vs. QEW.
Accumulator
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ScottWax- Thanks for responding about the difference between the two products, I was hoping you'd comment.
FWIW (and again, I don't want to turn this into a pro/con debate about rinseless washes, I'm absolutely convinced that they work great for many people), in my limited experience with QEW, I *have* experienced marring, the severity of which appeared to be primarily dependent upon how dirty it was,, what kind of [stuff] I was cleaning off the paint, and how firmly the stuff was adhered. I took all foreseeable precautions, used appropriate techniques, etc. etc. but it still happened with greater frequency (and severity) than with my regular routine. I can't seem to find a way to avoid moving the [stuff] across the paint with some amount of pressure on it; it doesn't always migrate up into my mitt/etc. away from the paint- same problem I always seem to have :nixweiss Still, I'm keeping an open mind and am toying with the idea of combining my foamgun/BHB methods with those of you rinseless-users; perhaps I'll come up with a hybrid system that I'd like for vehicles such as my Blazer. In the meantime, I do sometimes use QEW on the M3 and RX-7 as I continue to work on them (on and off, more off than on ) and it sure is better than just using a QD. I'll even go so far as to say that it works a lot better than I expected it to, just used it without problems last week to clean the M3's trunk lid.
FWIW (and again, I don't want to turn this into a pro/con debate about rinseless washes, I'm absolutely convinced that they work great for many people), in my limited experience with QEW, I *have* experienced marring, the severity of which appeared to be primarily dependent upon how dirty it was,, what kind of [stuff] I was cleaning off the paint, and how firmly the stuff was adhered. I took all foreseeable precautions, used appropriate techniques, etc. etc. but it still happened with greater frequency (and severity) than with my regular routine. I can't seem to find a way to avoid moving the [stuff] across the paint with some amount of pressure on it; it doesn't always migrate up into my mitt/etc. away from the paint- same problem I always seem to have :nixweiss Still, I'm keeping an open mind and am toying with the idea of combining my foamgun/BHB methods with those of you rinseless-users; perhaps I'll come up with a hybrid system that I'd like for vehicles such as my Blazer. In the meantime, I do sometimes use QEW on the M3 and RX-7 as I continue to work on them (on and off, more off than on
) and it sure is better than just using a QD. I'll even go so far as to say that it works a lot better than I expected it to, just used it without problems last week to clean the M3's trunk lid.BMW335i said:
ONR washes are much faster, especially on vehicles that are more dusty than dirty. I still break out my foam gun for those times when the dirt is really caked on, but its mostly ONR for me.
I've been keeping a mixed bucket of ONR in the garage, up to two weeks at a time, with no ill effects...
thesacrifice
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Accumulator said:
Hey bud, I seem to remember you mentioning your wife owning a car with water etching or something similiar. Perhaps you could try ONR on that vehicle, being careful to note new marring after your wash, that is if you're going to be correcting the paint on that vehicle this spring or whenever anyhow.
I've been using ONR since the summer biweekly and my vehicle is still relatively marr free, although it's never been correct since it's purchase....so it is showing a little bit of straight line marring here and there. Certaintly nothing more than I would expect if I was using my foamgun.