Who Uses ONR?

[SCutchins]

My car doesn't have hair, nor does it have pores that emit sweat and oils. You are comparing apples to toilet seats.

But I don't stand outside exposed to the elements 24 hours a day, or run down the road at 55mph and allow bugs to smash into me.



Come on now, that was kinda silly, wasn't it?

 

[Scottwax]

But I don't stand outside exposed to the elements 24 hours a day, or run down the road at 55mph and allow bugs to smash into me.



Come on now, that was kinda silly, wasn't it?

Still isn't even close to the same thing. Not sure why you can't understand that, but whatever.

 

[BlackElantraGT]

My car doesn't have hair, nor does it have pores that emit sweat and oils. You are comparing apples to toilet seats.

It's not exactly the same as skin so you can't compare directly, but I know I'm not the only one that's sprayed certain crevices in cars where dirt keeps pouring out constantly, sometimes what seems to be a never-ending supply of dirt.



Sorta similar to cleaning your rain gutter. All cars have areas where rain water drips to and drain, and it's usually in these areas that you need water pressure to get dirt and debris out.

 

[NSXTASY]

Personally, I use a pump sprayer to pre-spray when I ONR. I feel that my ONR washes clean the same as when I use traditional soap. I use APC, Wheel Cleaners, and they spray off effortlessly with my sprayer. Body seams, jambs, all get hit with the pre-spray.



The only thing ONR isn't designed to do is to tackle vehicles that are extremely dirty/muddy. ONR is like a smart car wash soap, maybe post-grad degree, traditional soap has a GED. Heh.

 

[Milestones]

It's like taking a shower. You could wipe yourself down and feel "fresh" for a short period of time, but eventually you're going to have to take a real shower. And a real shower isn't just stepping into the water and lathering yourself up. You got areas you have to scrub (behind your ears, your neck, your back, etc.) if you want to be fully clean.

Poor analogy.



Actually wiping yourself down/ taking a sponge bath is more analagous to taking your car through a touchless car wash. It is a quick and temporary solution but eventually you are going to have to do a "real" car wash that is involves wiping a wash mitt across the paint - not just spraying soap on the paint and rinsing it off.



I can tell you my paint is just as clean after an ONR wash as after a conventional wash. Don't forget with ONR you do wipe a wash mitt over the paint to remove dirt/debris and, as someone pointed out earlier, there is no rule that says you can't make more than one pass over a panel if you feel the first pass didn't get all the dirt.

 

[Bert]

I guess they were able to produce a "bubba proof" version or they think very highly of the Australians, which is where I think this product is sold.



Meguiars Waterless Wash





Oh, and to the OP...I use ONR too. Usually when I'm to tired to break out the hose and buckets. It's great for the winter time if you live in parts of the world where it would be a concern.

Maybe I am just being skeptical but Meguiars version of a Waterless Wash appears no different than if you were to use a California Duster, a good cleaning quick detailer, and a microfiber polishing towel. Am I missing anything?

 

[stuart hicks]

I have not used a bucket and a hose in years (except twice).



My cars and trucks get waterless treatment only. I've not seen any marring on any of my vehicles. Use a waterless wheel foam for wheels.



Tires get cleaned with odorless mineral spirts and disposable rags.



The beach is a quarter mile away to the east and the intracoastal a mile to the west. I don't want to Sh!t in my own nest.



They key is frequency. Never tried ONR personally.

 

[paul34]

Interesting but the comments I always get is that it's "high tech" and "eco friendly."

Same. After getting converted to ONR a couple of months ago, a regular wash just seems so "crude" now.



I do still have to use a hose for thorough cleaning of the tires, wheel wells, engine bay, and hopefully underbody in the upcoming few months...

 

[stuart hicks]

Whenever I do ONR washes (which isn't very often), I use the 2 bucket method still with grit guards. I know Scottwax is a firm believer in ONR and he uses just 1 bucket.



Personally, I don't like using mf towels to do my cleaning pass when using ONR because mf towels hold onto the dirt and grit, no matter how much agitate against the grit guard. I'd use another wash media that releases grit better. For me, I prefer sea sponges or grout sponges. But if you were constantly switching towels, that wouldn't really matter. But then that adds more time, by having to constantly grab new towels, more towels to wash later, not to mention a lot of towels getting soiled badly. I'd save the towel for the drying passes.

That's a good point about the Microfiber towels.

 

[imported_memnuts]

Same. After getting converted to ONR a couple of months ago, a regular wash just seems so "crude" now.



I do still have to use a hose for thorough cleaning of the tires, wheel wells, engine bay, and hopefully underbody in the upcoming few months...

What 's so crude about using a hose, a foam gun and soap to clean one's vehicle? Time spent is about the same and after 50 years my low-tech washing protocol still works. :hairpull

 

[SuperBee364]

While we're on the ONR topic again, what do you guys think about doing a polishing job after an ONR wash? You guys think it gets the vehicle free of small particles well enough to go ahead and polish it out?



There's a few vehicles I'd like to get done this winter and the only way they'll get done is if I can ONR them prior to polishing.

 

[imported_weekendwarrior]

While we're on the ONR topic again, what do you guys think about doing a polishing job after an ONR wash? You guys think it gets the vehicle free of small particles well enough to go ahead and polish it out?



There's a few vehicles I'd like to get done this winter and the only way they'll get done is if I can ONR them prior to polishing.

As a matter of fact, I used QEW (very similar to ONR) to wash an '07 Mustang this past weekend that I had to polish. I evaluated the car in the sun and then washed with QEW (on water restriction here) in my garage. I then clayed the car (using QEW in a spray bottle with water as the lube), and then polished and sealed. I think the QEW wash did as well as a regular wash. I was very pleased with the results.

 

[NSXTASY]

While we're on the ONR topic again, what do you guys think about doing a polishing job after an ONR wash? You guys think it gets the vehicle free of small particles well enough to go ahead and polish it out?

Without a doubt. Prespray, wash the panel, prespray, wipe. I find that the extra prespray



before I wipe the panel adds a little time, but it also allows any dirt that is sitting on the



paint to run off before I wipe. My MF WW's no longer have stains after I wipe, whereas



before they would come away from the paint somewhat dirty.

 

[sspeer]

When it is that cold, do you use a handled wash brush or just have really cold hands?:lol

The reason to use warm water! Plus it encourages frequent sponge rinsing! LOL

 

[Bert]

The reason to use warm water! Plus it encourages frequent sponge rinsing! LOL

Good point. If it is near freezing outside, I am surprised the water stays warm long enough to finish your car.

 

[Milestones]

superbee:



I just ONRed my car this past weekend before proceeding to clay and apply Werkstatt Prime Strong (followed by AJT).



Worked great.

 

[imported_Bence]

Without a doubt. Prespray, wash the panel, prespray, wipe. I find that the extra prespray



before I wipe the panel adds a little time, but it also allows any dirt that is sitting on the



paint to run off before I wipe. My MF WW's no longer have stains after I wipe, whereas



before they would come away from the paint somewhat dirty.

Again, why don't you wash the panel once more???



This is exactly what I was talking about. People believe that they have to wash the panel and dry. Two steps. No matter what, they have to dry after they wash it ONCE. Why??? And they are surprised if the towel gets dirty...



So, just rinse the washing media and wash it as often as you want. Wonder of wonders, it will be clean.

 

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

While we're on the ONR topic again, what do you guys think about doing a polishing job after an ONR wash? You guys think it gets the vehicle free of small particles well enough to go ahead and polish it out?



There's a few vehicles I'd like to get done this winter and the only way they'll get done is if I can ONR them prior to polishing.

I ONR'd and then clayed (with ONR lube) prior to polishing this wekend (Menz).



Here's some pics before lsp.. AMAZING how glossy Menzerna 106ff is by itself...

 

[Milestones]

Yeah - if your drying towels are getting dirty when you use ONR - you are not using it correctly. As Bence states, there is no reason not to wash the panel with ONR more than once if necessary to get it clean (I'm usually always able to get my daily driver clean with one wipe - but it never goes more than 2 weeks without being washed).



My waffle weave drying towels are light blue and I've never noticed any dirt (brown/black) on them when drying my vehicle using ONR.

 

[22velocity]

Scottwax, Do you prefer the Onr over the QEW ? I have about a half of a gallon of QEW left and I am wondering If it pays to switch over to the ONR. Frank