Which sprayer for ONR

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getgoing

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Hi guys,

Can someone please help me with three questions:

1. If I go to the Amazon page for Chemical guys sprayer, https://www.amazon.com/Chemical-Guys-ACC503-Function-Atomizer/dp/B07R69L9N1, I see two products: "Mister + Sprayer" and "Sprayer Only"
What`s the difference between them?

2. How does the Chemical guys sprayer compare to the older iK MULTI 1.5 or the newer iK MULTI Pro 2.

3. What is the best sprayer for pre-soaking with ONR (Optimum No Rinse)?

I`d be thankful for any guidance.
 
Never used the CG one, I have an iK 1.5 and you have to pump it pretty often to do an entire car. The Pro 2 requires less frequent pumping so that`s a big plus to me. I have like 5 different brands of sprayers. Outside of how much you`d have to pump they`d all work about the same for pre-soaking. My Marolex has the longest between pumps spray time, but they`re also by far the most expensive. I know it`s an old design, and doesn`t have fancy stuff like a trigger lock, but I really love my Kwazar Venus Pro 360. I own 3 different Kwazar`s and they`re all still working after 5 years. It`s only 1 liter but for something like a ONR pre soak you wouldn`t need more, probably a lot less than that even.

I`m guessing the CG`s just a rebagged Solo or similar company, so I`m sure it`s good. But for a bit more you can get the iK Pro 2 which is pretty damn nice.
 
getgoing said:
Hi guys,

Can someone please help me with three questions:

1. If I go to the Amazon page for Chemical guys sprayer, https://www.amazon.com/Chemical-Guys-ACC503-Function-Atomizer/dp/B07R69L9N1, I see two products: "Mister + Sprayer" and "Sprayer Only"
What`s the difference between them?

2. How does the Chemical guys sprayer compare to the older iK MULTI 1.5 or the newer iK MULTI Pro 2.

3. What is the best sprayer for pre-soaking with ONR (Optimum No Rinse)?

I`d be thankful for any guidance.
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Marolex Acid Industry Ergo via Luxury Microfiber Store, if you’re only purchasing one (which is hard to limit yourself when you see and feel the quality), I’d get the 3000 version. You can do an entire midsize sedan, including wheels, with the 2000, but it is cutting it close for me, especially because I use the coin-op. These Marolex pump sprayers are quality, they make the IK’s, the EPOCA’s, and Kwazars seem cheap. I know there are mixed views and opinions about Scott, but don’t let them sway you from purchasing a Marolex from him, they are the best pump sprayers that I have tried, to date. Yes, there is a bit of a mark up on the sprayers compared to their price in Poland, however, all things considered, I can justify the price of entry. They are that nice.
 
TheMeanGreen said:
Marolex Acid Industry Ergo via Luxury Microfiber Store, if you’re only purchasing one (which is hard to limit yourself when you see and feel the quality), I’d get the 3000 version. You can do an entire midsize sedan, including wheels, with the 2000, but it is cutting it close for me, especially because I use the coin-op. These Marolex pump sprayers are quality, they make the IK’s, the EPOCA’s, and Kwazars seem cheap. I know there are mixed views and opinions about Scott, but don’t let them sway you from purchasing a Marolex from him, they are the best pump sprayers that I have tried, to date. Yes, there is a bit of a mark up on the sprayers compared to their price in Poland, however, all things considered, I can justify the price of entry. They are that nice.
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Marolex’s cheaper on amazon and ebay.


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Coatings=crack said:
Marolex’s cheaper on amazon and ebay.

Ik pro about 2-3 pump ups to get around whole car.

IK 1. 5 too many times.

For just Rinseless pretreat i would just pick up a 1-2 gallon pump sprayer with wand from Lowes or Amazon. Can get one for about $10 and covers car with one pump up. from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Coatings=crack said:
For just Rinseless pretreat i would just pick up a 1-2 gallon pump sprayer with wand from Lowes or Amazon...
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That`s what I was thinking. I only use RW as a Drying Aid, but that`s how I do a whole vehicle (though I work in sections anyhow).
 
Coatings=crack said:
For just Rinseless pretreat i would just pick up a 1-2 gallon pump sprayer with wand from Lowes or Amazon. Can get one for about $10 and covers car with one pump up
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Accumulator said:
That`s what I was thinking. I only use RW as a Drying Aid, but that`s how I do a whole vehicle (though I work in sections anyhow).
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Hi guys, can you please share an Amazon link I can look at.

If a regular pump sprayer will work for ONR, when what is special about the branded iK and Marolex ones? Just want to understand.

Thanks.
 
getgoing said:
Hi guys, can you please share an Amazon link I can look at...
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https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pump+spr...=c&hvqmt=e&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_3kog2v9k49_e

If a regular pump sprayer will work for ONR, when what is special about the branded iK and Marolex ones? Just want to understand...
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I don`t know why people use [special?] sprayers, IME most anything works fine with ONR/IUDJ. I got mine from the local bigbox (forget which one) when it was on sale for peanuts many years ago, and although I`ve dealt with its hose wearing out at the obvious flex-point, that was easy enough to fix (I just shortened the hose an inch or so and reinforced it with self-amalgamating tape so it would last even longer before I have to do it again).
 
The thing is that a cheap pump sprayer and ONR is a gateway to better sprayers and realizing that a pump sprayer is nice to use in more situations than just ONR spraying... The Marolex has the longest working time from one pump cycle, one can treat an entire midsize sedan with one pump cycle, whereas other sprayers will require multiple pump cycles, other sprayers of similar volume. One often buys a pump sprayer to save time, multiple pump cycles does not save time. True, one can buy a one of the Scott weed sprayers, they are decent products; they do have their short comings, but for some they may work.
 
TheMeanGreen said:
Yes, but how long does one wait for the product to arrive? Through Amazon, it’s at least a month, compared to the 5-7 business days with LMF. For some, the markup is worth the expedited shipping.
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Maybe to you personally. for $10-15 cheaper (20-25%). I’ll wait. Just giving options.




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I think the only major difference i see is my IK multi pro and a generic garden hand held is alot less pumping and atomizes (more mist like than spray like). If using other more expensive products you’ll use less product and work less. For wheel cleaners and APC and interior cleaning the more expensive sprayers are worth it.

For pretreat with a rinseless product I am recommending a bigger wand sprayer as you can spray faster, get around car with one to two pump ups depending on sprayer, spend a 4th if the price on it.

Pre treat with a rinseless is cheap wouldn’t invest in a nicer sprayer. I actually use my IK MP 2 for pretreat because i wanted to check it out and see if maybe due to build quality switch all my foamers. It has up grades but sprayer/foamer are same as the old 1.5. I don’t have a use for a pump sprayer (I prefer foamers but not for RW pretreat) so I use it for pretreating but I like everything about my cheaper, bigger, wand sprayer FOR PRETREAT better.

I didn’t post links cuz i think it’s not allowed. I just bought the Scotts sprayer the sell at Homie Depot.


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Coatings=crack said:
For wheel cleaners and APC and interior cleaning the more expensive sprayers are worth it.
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Thanks. Can I clarify something please. When you say "interior cleaning", are you saying that the expensive sprayers like Marolex and iK are worth it for inside cleaning? I am asking because I hadn`t seen any use of sprayers for interior cleaning (e.g. on Youtube), so I was curious.

Thanks.
 
getgoing said:
Thanks. Can I clarify something please. When you say "interior cleaning", are you saying that the expensive sprayers like Marolex and iK are worth it for inside cleaning? I am asking because I hadn`t seen any use of sprayers for interior cleaning (e.g. on Youtube), so I was curious.

Thanks.
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There are many chemicals that require the use of higher quality comments so that the sprayer endures continuous use, years. Generally, cheap sprayers are built with lower quality seals and plastics that do not endure alkaline or acid cleaners. Natively, ONR as a concentrate is acidic, but when mixed with water in certain dilutions, its pH is neutral, meaning it degrades seals not much more than water. So ONR is okay for cheap sprayers, but when you get into chemicals that are quite strong, more heavy duty seals and in some cases, plastics are needed. So, is my Marolex Acid Industry Ergo overkill for ONR, in the context of chemical strength, perhaps. But I know that I can run some pretty corrosive and volatile cleaners through the sprayer without having to worry about inexpensive parts failing on me. The Marolex and IK’s are worth it for any chemical they are rated for, which is a lot.
 
getgoing said:
Thanks. Can I clarify something please. When you say "interior cleaning", are you saying that the expensive sprayers like Marolex and iK are worth it for inside cleaning? I am asking because I hadn`t seen any use of sprayers for interior cleaning (e.g. on Youtube), so I was curious.

Thanks.
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I think the atomized apray would be better for carpets, upholstery and headliners. Also quiker work for detailers. I use foam for interiors and use a Ik foamer (old one)for interiors as i’d only do my carpets. Leather seats and a convertible.

I personally don’t need a pump sprayer except for pre treat as i foam almost everything else. I like the epocha better than the IK but do have a marolex axel 3000 on the way.




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I filled up my 1l Kwazar Venus 360 and it sprayed for 45 seconds before it started to lose pressure. I couldn`t find my iK 1.5 to test it, but I remember it being a lot less. I also had to pump the Kwazar a lot fewer times to reach max pressure. I like the 360`because you can turn them upside down or any angle and it`ll keep spraying exactly the same. I know at least one other brand has a sprayer that`ll do this. I don`t like my 2l Kwazars because they`re too tall. But the 1 and 1.5 are good.

I was surprised when I dug mine up today it was still half full of some Sonax Fallout that has been in there for around 4 years, didn`t seem to do anything so they`re pretty well built.
 
And some people just prefer pressing the "trigger" on a pressurized sprayer better than pumping the handle on a regular spray bottle. I`m not one of those folks, but I can sure understand that viewpoint. IMO you won`t know *your* preference until you try different ones, and it might take some acclimation time to figure out what you really prefer.
 
Accumulator said:
And some people just prefer pressing the "trigger" on a pressurized sprayer better than pumping the handle on a regular spray bottle. I`m not one of those folks, but I can sure understand that viewpoint. IMO you won`t know *your* preference until you try different ones, and it might take some acclimation time to figure out what you really prefer.
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LOL I have about 7 different pump sprayers, yet I got a bottle of ech2o last month and all 3 of the washes I`ve done with it I`ve just used the bottle it came in.
 
quebert said:
LOL I have about 7 different pump sprayers, yet I got a bottle of ech2o last month and all 3 of the washes I`ve done with it I`ve just used the bottle it came in.
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The bottle it came in? Are you using it neat? Or did it come with a extra spray bottle?


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