Which of these products will fill in swirls the best?

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I'm currently detailing my buddy's black 2000 Acura Integra. I have until the end of the weekend with it, so I'm taking my time. Anyways, its never been detailed, so obviously its full of swirls and other marring. A combo of rotary and PC work has removed about 90-95% of the defects in this neglected 6 year old paint job, but seeing as this is the first time I've done a black car thats this bad I don't want to keep working in products in order to get everything out. So instead of possibly over-polishing, I'd like to fill in the remaining defects with an LSP.



I simply have a bad habit of buying new waxes/sealants, and I haven't even used most of this stuff, so I have no idea how some of it works as far as filling. Instead of doing test panel after test panel to see what works, I figured I'd get some input here first. Any help is greatly appreciated.



My list of products

-Klasse AIO

-Klass SG

-Chemical Guys Butter Wet Wax

-P21S

-Natty's Blue

-Souveran

-Meg's 16

-Meg's 26

-Meg's NXT

-Meg's 21

-Z2 (the old formula, not the Pro stuff)

-Mothers Reflections Wax and Top Coat

-Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection

-Meg's #5 and #7 (I know, they're not waxes)



I'm thinking I'll go with AIO and SG as I believe I've been told this can help hide some defects, then go with Meguiars #5 or #7 because the polishing oils will do some filling, then top it off with a carnuba. What do you guys think?
 
From what I hear, AIO and SG reveal all swirls and are not forgiving anything on less that perfect paintwork. NXT or Natty's Blue most likely fill the most of all those listed.
 
Bigpoppa3346 said:
From what I hear, AIO and SG reveal all swirls and are not forgiving anything on less that perfect paintwork. NXT or Natty's Blue most likely fill the most of all those listed.
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Good to know. I was either misinformed, or just mixing up what I was told before. Thanks.



Now I'm thinking NXT, #7, carnuba.
 
agreed bigpoppa, i used the k twins strictly for about a six month strecth, never noticed any sort of disguising, guess it doesnt hurt to properly polish i suppose but nonetheless id say its more a magnifying glass than a camo product.
 
Yeah, skip the Klasse twins unless you can get things virtually perfect.



#7/#16. If the #7 is too tricky to use (don't let it dry before buffing it ;) ) then use the #5/#16 instead.



FWIW, I *REALLY* like #5/#16 even if it doesn't look quite as good; it's just *SO* easy to do and it usually looks good enough (we're splitting hairs here).
 
kpagel said:
So instead of possibly over-polishing, I'd like to fill in the remaining defects with an LSP.
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Good idea.



kpagel said:
I'm thinking I'll go with AIO and SG as I believe I've been told this can help hide some defects, then go with Meguiars #5 or #7 because the polishing oils will do some filling, then top it off with a carnuba. What do you guys think?
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AIO and SG? Bad idea unless the finish is flawless.



I'd suggest you follow Accumulator's advice and use #5. As for the LSP, I'd go with #21 just because it'll last longer than carnauba. :D



kpagel said:
I simply have a bad habit of buying new waxes/sealants, and I haven't even used most of this stuff, so I have no idea how some of it works as far as filling.
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Welcome to the club! :LOLOL It never ends! :nervous2:
 
The only thing with #21 is that it contains cleaners and may remove some of the glaze. #16 doesn't contain cleaners, has decent hiding abilities, and probably lasts as long (maybe longer?) as #21.
 
I personally think that 16 lasts as long as 21, I guess I'm wierd...



I also have had mixed results applying 21 on top of 7 including really bad streaking and smearing, espically on black..
 
I find #7 is somewhat easy to use when you; Use Sparingly and do not remove it all at once. I like to apply over the entire vehicle and then only remove about 30% of the product, move to the next panel.... I like to break it up and only remove 30% each pass. Using a MF towel usually is too efficient, I use a soft diaper cloth. I go around the car about 3 times to fully remove it. Make sure to do it in the shade/garage and have a cool panel. Good luck.
 
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