Which Menzerna you prefer: PO106 or IP

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gohandbz8

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For those of you that own these 2 polishes, which one do you prefer to use more on lightly swirled cars? I have some IP on order and I already have the PO106.
 
Lightly swirled can be all over the radar. Is it a jet black Bimmer(stupid softâ„¢) or Corvette(hard as rocks)? I prefer working with 106 as that's where the beauty returns to the surface and all the hard work pays off but they are just two different polishes with two different purposes.
 
SpoiledMan said:
Lightly swirled can be all over the radar. Is it a jet black Bimmer(stupid softâ„¢) or Corvette(hard as rocks)? I prefer working with 106 as that's where the beauty returns to the surface and all the hard work pays off but they are just two different polishes with two different purposes.
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Exactly. IP is used to correct (remove swirls and defects). 106ff is used to make your car shine. Two totally different polishes. Two totally different purposes. They are not interchangeable.
 
I'm going to be working on a black G35 with some light swirls. I hear they have pretty soft paint. Will the PO106 be good enough? I'm thinking of starting off with the Edge Orange pad.
 
gohandbz8, make no mistake about it, they are *two different products* for *two very different purposes*. I see sooooooo many people here post about how PO106FF didn't do the swirl correction they wanted it to do. You *must* stick with the intended use of a product in order to get the desired results. If you have swirls (ANY swirls.... like, even one swirl on the vhicle anywhere) you will NOT get the results you want by using PO106FF as your correction polish. It just IS NOT made for it. PO106FF is made specifically to make your paint glow.

Do you self a favor: use polishes for their intended purpose. If you have any swirls to correct, use a correction polish. Then, after all the swirls and defects are gone (or as many as you can safely get out), use a final polish like 106ff to make the vehicle shine like a diamond.



Sorry to sound like I'm coming on strong about this, but there are hundreds of posts on these boards almost identical to this: using PO106FF to try and correct swirls. It just won't do it.
 
SuperBee364 said:
gohandbz8, make no mistake about it, they are *two different products* for *two very different purposes*. I see sooooooo many people here post about how PO106FF didn't do the swirl correction they wanted it to do. You *must* stick with the intended use of a product in order to get the desired results. If you have swirls (ANY swirls.... like, even one swirl on the vhicle anywhere) you will NOT get the results you want by using PO106FF as your correction polish. It just IS NOT made for it. PO106FF is made specifically to make your paint glow. IT HAS ZERO CORRECTION ABILITIES.



Do you self a favor: use polishes for their intended purpose. If you have any swirls to correct, use a correction polish. Then, after all the swirls and defects are gone (or as many as you can safely get out), use a final polish like 106ff to make the vehicle shine like a diamond.



Sorry to sound like I'm coming on strong about this, but there are hundreds of posts on these boards almost identical to this: using PO106FF to try and correct swirls. It just won't do it.
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i'm a lil confused. you say that 106ff has no correction abilities. I was under the impression that it has a very light cutting ability, and can be used to remove buffer holograms from a previous step. For example if you hit a fender with menzerna sip, and then follow up with 106ff, to remove any induced marring. am I wrong?
 
NavindraLR said:
i'm a lil confused. you say that 106ff has no correction abilities. I was under the impression that it has a very light cutting ability, and can be used to remove buffer holograms from a previous step. For example if you hit a fender with menzerna sip, and then follow up with 106ff, to remove any induced marring. am I wrong?
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I was afraid that comment would cause confusion. Let's just put it this way...



Menzerna PO106FF (or any "finishing" class polish) is meant for a very specific purpose: To put the final shine on a vehicle, or to remove marring caused by a previous polishing step. It is *not* made to do any defect or swirl removal.
 
106FF has quite a bit of burnishing power to it and that's why guys use it with orange and white LC pads sometimes.



I've gotten out marks on my car with 106 and a black pad that usually take IP and white or orange to remove.
 
SuperBee364 said:
gohandbz8, make no mistake about it, they are *two different products* for *two very different purposes*. I see sooooooo many people here post about how PO106FF didn't do the swirl correction they wanted it to do. You *must* stick with the intended use of a product in order to get the desired results. If you have swirls (ANY swirls.... like, even one swirl on the vhicle anywhere) you will NOT get the results you want by using PO106FF as your correction polish. It just IS NOT made for it. PO106FF is made specifically to make your paint glow. IT HAS ZERO CORRECTION ABILITIES.



Do you self a favor: use polishes for their intended purpose. If you have any swirls to correct, use a correction polish. Then, after all the swirls and defects are gone (or as many as you can safely get out), use a final polish like 106ff to make the vehicle shine like a diamond.



Sorry to sound like I'm coming on strong about this, but there are hundreds of posts on these boards almost identical to this: using PO106FF to try and correct swirls. It just won't do it.
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The information you provided was very useful and much appreciated. At least now I know what each product does.



I do have one question though. Over the weekend I used the PO106 on the car and some swirls were no longer visible. Does that mean the swirls were covered up or "corrected?"
 
SVR said:
106FF has quite a bit of burnishing power to it and that's why guys use it with orange and white LC pads sometimes.



I've gotten out marks on my car with 106 and a black pad that usually take IP and white or orange to remove.
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I second. Btw how is the Nyalic thing going on?
 
106FF DOES have correction abilities, light, but there are there. Ive removed stuff using CCS white pad on the rotary. It all depends on color, degree of imperfections, clear coat, machine, and pad.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
106FF DOES have correction abilities, light, but there are there. Ive removed stuff using CCS white pad on the rotary. It all depends on color, degree of imperfections, and clear coat.
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Agreed. It has more correction ability than #80.
 
Bleh. I give up. Sure, any cleaner in the world with any amount of abrasives in it has "some correction ability". But that is not the point I'm trying to make here. *Some* abrasive polishes are used to correct paintwork; swirls, scratches, oxidation, etc. *Other* abrasive polishes are meant to remove compounding marks and create a high gloss finish. Two completely different purposes, and when you try to start using them outside of their intended purposes, you are taking your chances. Yeah, 106FF has some very, very fine abrasives in it. Their purpose? To remove *very very very* fine defects in the paint and make it very smooth and shiny. Sheesh, I don't know how else to say it.



You want to use PO106FF or any other finishing polishes to remove defects, go ahead. Just don't be surprised it it only works *for it's intended purpose* only.
 
How about this? 106 is a polish with decent cut that finishes well. That work? Being that there are polishes in the M line that are both much more abrasive and much less abrasive I think that's a fair statement.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Bleh. I give up. Sure, any cleaner in the world with any amount of abrasives in it has "some correction ability". But that is not the point I'm trying to make here. *Some* abrasive polishes are used to correct paintwork; swirls, scratches, oxidation, etc. *Other* abrasive polishes are meant to remove compounding marks and create a high gloss finish. Two completely different purposes, and when you try to start using them outside of their intended purposes, you are taking your chances. Yeah, 106FF has some very, very fine abrasives in it. Their purpose? To remove *very very very* fine defects in the paint and make it very smooth and shiny. Sheesh, I don't know how else to say it.



You want to use PO106FF or any other finishing polishes to remove defects, go ahead. Just don't be surprised it it only works *for it's intended purpose* only.
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Well I look forward to using the IP on my next detail. Since, it has much more cutting ability, I should be able to remove alot more swirls.
 
SpoiledMan said:
How about this? 106 is a polish with decent cut that finishes well. That work? Being that there are polishes in the M line that are both much more abrasive and much less abrasive I think that's a fair statement.
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I hate to make this argument go on for longer but I'm taking SuperBee's side.



I do understand that 106FF has "some" correction ability but I would call it minimal to little as opposed to "decent".



106FF is mostly used to remove micromarring, holograms, and to get that "pop" out of the paint. If you need to remove swirls, use a product that's more suited for it like IP or SIP. Also, why would you use your most expensive polish to do the job a cheaper one can do better and faster?
 
SuperBee364 said:
I was afraid that comment would cause confusion. Let's just put it this way...



Menzerna PO106FF (or any "finishing" class polish) is meant for a very specific purpose: To put the final shine on a vehicle, or to remove marring caused by a previous polishing step. It is *not* made to do any defect or swirl removal.
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ok cool.. that's exactly what i thought, but you worded it a lot better than me.. thanks :)
 
Have anyone of you guys used PO106FF/FA with a wool or foam cutting pad?



But yes it is a finishing polish and SIP cuts better.
 
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