what wax to use after #7......

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Lord Banshee

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well i just started using meguiar's Mirror Glaze products and i have some problems. I used to use Meg. Gold Class Car wax if you wanted to know. Well i do not own a porter cable YET! and i apply everything by hand. Well i apply #7 with a foam pad and wipe off with a mf towel. Then after polishing the whole car i use Meg. Hi-Tech Yellow Wax #26 and i find that after i wax the whole car and let haze it is hard to get off and it leaves oily smudges on the car. What am i doing wrong. And what is this s100 wax everyone uses, is it better then #26? :nixweiss
 
First off :welcome your smudges could be a result of not applying #7 properly, check out this post http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23614

and i will never use another wax other than S100, love it :bow you can get some from your local Harley Davidson dealer, same stuff as P21S, but cheaper. Best thing about S100 is no waiting to haze period, just apply then buff, no white residue, and it wont stain your rubber trim areas. So for a fantastic wax i rec S100 stongly, the Pinnacle Souvern wax is just as good if not better but its $$ compared to S100. good luck
 
As 4DR Turbo stated, the #7 could be giving you grief, so do check out that thread.



The other possibility is that you are applying too much #26. Less is more. #26 has no cleaners, so will leave smudges and be hard to remove if you use too much.
 
the problem is that i did read that whole post. Maybe i applied too much, that has to be the only thing i did wrong. Can someone post pic or go into detail as to puting the polish on the pad and surface. How much is too much, how little is too little?



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yeah i think it has to be too much #26, because i remember looking at my car shine like crazy without noticeable smudges, before i applied #26. Hmmm i wish i had somepeople to actually show me how to apply this stuff better. Me and my friends(owns a 300zx) are probally the most detail freaks in this little town. We have so much learning to do thou.....
 
That's just it. No one will be able to post pics, because to get the thinness that you need, it won't be visible in a picture. For that matter, it's even difficult to see in person. You should be applying such a thin coat that you'll have to look at it at different angles to ensure that you even have any product on the surface. So, I guess what I am saying is that it'll never be too thin. Apply as little as you can manage, and it could probably be thinner still.
 
so if it hazes like this(ie this is what it hazed too) then i put too much..... Another thing the less you have on the pad the rougher it is to apply right so how do i know i am not scratching the paint.



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you shouldnt be using #7 in the frist place, its not meant for cars with a clear coat. i went in to our local mirror glaze shop, and asked about using it on my car and the owner told me not to use it.
 
nielksj said:
you shouldnt be using #7 in the frist place, its not meant for cars with a clear coat. i went in to our local mirror glaze shop, and asked about using it on my car and the owner told me not to use it.
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I think your source is wrong, it is definately fine for clear coat.
 
Lord Banshee said:
Well i apply #7 with a foam pad and wipe off with a mf towel. Then after polishing the whole car i use Meg. Hi-Tech Yellow Wax #26 and i find that after i wax the whole car and let haze it is hard to get off and it leaves oily smudges on the car. What am i doing wrong. And what is this s100 wax everyone uses, is it better then #26? :nixweiss
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I just did a glaze and wax (S100) this weekend on the Benz. It's a great combo. I can't say I found the "look" of S100 better than #26, but the simplicity of application and removal was a big plus for me.



Lord Banshee said:
so if it hazes like this(ie this is what it hazed too) then i put too much..... Another thing the less you have on the pad the rougher it is to apply right so how do i know i am not scratching the paint.
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Yeah, that looks pretty thick to me. What helps me is to spritz the foam pad very lightly with distilled water so that the pad is already moist. It feels like it helps me spread thinner layers, but that's not at all scientific.
 
Well, if your foam applicator is clean, and the surface is clean, there is no reason you should be able to scratch the surface, unless you are really bearing down on the app. I would try what Lynn has suggested.



And the post about the clear coat is incorrect. The thing is that it is not as effective for clearcoats. That's the reason I choose not to use it. It's a bit finicky, and does not add very much to the clearcoated depth. I have found the Mother's Sealer and Glaze much more effective for clearcoats. But I currently use Klasse, so do not use a Glaze at all.
 
CRV-03 said:
:nixweiss



I think your source is wrong, it is definately fine for clear coat.
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i think the mirror glaze store would know what their products are used for. he said its meant for non clear coat cars and using it on a car with a clear coat is a waste of time. and since #7 is kinda oiley, i wouldnt be suprised if this is his problem.
 
I'm testing topping #7 with Collinite #915 today. P21s is beautiful but for me it does not last long, maybe two weeks. That's why I like Collinite, it lasts, it shines, and it almost acts like a polymer in it's protection properties. I't's a sleeeper.



My mainstay is One Grand Blitz, another great carnauba.



Try topping #7 with these or any of the other highly rated waxes on Autopia. You can't go wrong.
 
nielksj said:
you shouldnt be using #7 in the frist place, its not meant for cars with a clear coat. i went in to our local mirror glaze shop, and asked about using it on my car and the owner told me not to use it.
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Why don't you just read the label??:eek:



It clearly states that it IS safe for clearcoats. I've used it on clearcoats and found it works just fine. Of course, I've upgraded my supplies many times since those days..;)



BTW, I think s100 is the best carnauba out there:bow , and it ease of application/removal is infinitely better than #26...you can pick a jar up at a Harley Dealer for $15...:xyxthumbs
 
nielksj said:
i think the mirror glaze store would know what their products are used for.
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Yeah, just like those "experts" that say Teflon works in car care products. :rolleyes: Sounds like your store needs to go back to Meguiars Tech 101. :down
 
BTW, last fall, before I discovered Zaino, I used the #7 & #26 combo, and -- even on my old white car -- it was a wonderful wet effect. In fact, I think the look was "wetter" than I now get with Zaino. But I want the long-term protection that Zaino gives me. So ... in a word, I'd say go for the #7/#26 combo. As you hang out in Autopia, you'll find yourself exploring other products and combinations. But I do think this one is a good choice.
 
nielksj said:
i think the mirror glaze store would know what their products are used for. he said its meant for non clear coat cars and using it on a car with a clear coat is a waste of time. and since #7 is kinda oiley, i wouldnt be suprised if this is his problem.
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I use #7 on a clear coated car and it definitely makes a difference. My husband (who gets dragged to the car to see all of my experiments) said it was the most impressive thing he had seen me put on the car. He was really wowed by the deep, wet shine.
 
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