Preachers Sheets
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I use a DeWalt rotary and I am looking for a product that is as mild as Meguiars Swirl Remover 2.0. 3M SMR is good but can leave hazing which is a pain because I need to re-cover the car with All In One to get rid of it.
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What to use instead of Meguiars Swirl Remover 2.0
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imported_Intel486
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Pro's P-21 Swirl Eliminator and Polish. I use it with my rotary and it is great. Is easy to buff off and it leaves a nice, clear finish. It also will remove buffer swirls if you used a heavier cutting product before.
If you want more cutting action, then I've been using Pro's P-11 Creamy Cutter. It works great at taking out cobweb swirls.
Pro's P-40 DUZ-all is great for cleaning off oxidation but it doesn't have the swirl and scratch cutting action that P-11 Creamy Cutter does. DUZ-all on the bottle though says it is made for cleaning off oxidation, water spots, fallout, and other contaminents. It does do a nice job at oxidation removal. My dist said switch to Pro's Acid Rain Remover though when I run out of DUZ-all. I still have 1/2 a gal of DUZ-all left and I hardly ever use it. I mainly use P-11 now.
I've tried some other new product they got. I can't remember the name and it isn't on their webpage. It has the same type of abrasive P-11 does but it isn't as abrasive. I tried it out and it could remove light cobweb swirls and would come out to a swirl free, crystal clear finish. It didn't have the power to easily take out scratches but it did a good job at cobweb swirls and coming to a clean finish.
EDIT: Just found it. P-26 Clear-Cut
If you want more cutting action, then I've been using Pro's P-11 Creamy Cutter. It works great at taking out cobweb swirls.
Pro's P-40 DUZ-all is great for cleaning off oxidation but it doesn't have the swirl and scratch cutting action that P-11 Creamy Cutter does. DUZ-all on the bottle though says it is made for cleaning off oxidation, water spots, fallout, and other contaminents. It does do a nice job at oxidation removal. My dist said switch to Pro's Acid Rain Remover though when I run out of DUZ-all. I still have 1/2 a gal of DUZ-all left and I hardly ever use it. I mainly use P-11 now.
I've tried some other new product they got. I can't remember the name and it isn't on their webpage. It has the same type of abrasive P-11 does but it isn't as abrasive. I tried it out and it could remove light cobweb swirls and would come out to a swirl free, crystal clear finish. It didn't have the power to easily take out scratches but it did a good job at cobweb swirls and coming to a clean finish.
EDIT: Just found it. P-26 Clear-Cut
imported_doug
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You didn't say why you didn't want to use the 2.0 itself?
As for 3M hazing - I have watched it very carefully, and I KNOw it hazes, but I also KNOW that it means you didn't work it long enough. Maybe you're being cautious with the rotary - a good thing - but maybe the rotary creates enough heat that the compound is drying out too quickly. I suspect the latter. Here is my suggestion - try it again - be sure to work the compound hard and long. It SHOULD get very dry and thin. But if you think the abrasives haven't worn down enough, lubricate with a spriz of distilled water or QD and keep working it. If this doesn't get rid of the haze I'd be surprised.
The 3M stuff IS more abrasive than Meguiars, as far as I can tell - so ultimately it will do a better job on medium swirls. Having a rotary should give you the advantage of being able to break it down well - something nearly impossible to do by hand.
P.S. - all you non-believers, if you haven't observed this hazing don't be surprised. It takes excellent lighting conditions and a good eye to see it. A black car helps a lot.
As for 3M hazing - I have watched it very carefully, and I KNOw it hazes, but I also KNOW that it means you didn't work it long enough. Maybe you're being cautious with the rotary - a good thing - but maybe the rotary creates enough heat that the compound is drying out too quickly. I suspect the latter. Here is my suggestion - try it again - be sure to work the compound hard and long. It SHOULD get very dry and thin. But if you think the abrasives haven't worn down enough, lubricate with a spriz of distilled water or QD and keep working it. If this doesn't get rid of the haze I'd be surprised.
The 3M stuff IS more abrasive than Meguiars, as far as I can tell - so ultimately it will do a better job on medium swirls. Having a rotary should give you the advantage of being able to break it down well - something nearly impossible to do by hand.
P.S. - all you non-believers, if you haven't observed this hazing don't be surprised. It takes excellent lighting conditions and a good eye to see it. A black car helps a lot.
imported_Intel486
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What kind of Hazing are you referring to?
When I used 3M's SMR it left a lot of oil on the paint that streaked. It was a haze that I could drag a towel one direction and the marks would change direction.
I did it with my rotary and worked it until dry just like I do with Pro's Swirl Eliminator.
When I used 3M's SMR it left a lot of oil on the paint that streaked. It was a haze that I could drag a towel one direction and the marks would change direction.
I did it with my rotary and worked it until dry just like I do with Pro's Swirl Eliminator.