what to finish with, after Menzerna SIP/PO85RD?

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ssabripo

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been reading and reading, and there are so many options I'm getting headaches! :dig



here is what I'm planning on using for prep/pre-finish:



Clay

Menzerna SIP/Orange pad

Menzerna 106ff/ Green Pad

Menzerna PO85RD/Blue Pad

Menzerna Top inspection in between.





I want:

a) something that lasts more than 3 washes!

b) something that doesn't cost $500-$2500 like the high end swissvax stuff.



i'm leaning towards:

Lusso Oro or Swissvax Onyx, as far as Waxes, or Use Zaino Z2 pro as the finish.



Other recommendations are highly appreciated as well.



ps- my cars that will be used: Saphire black BMW X5, and Alpine White BMW 135i
 
ssabripo said:
been reading and reading, and there are so many options I'm getting headaches! :dig



here is what I'm planning on using for prep/pre-finish:



Clay

Menzerna SIP/Orange pad

Menzerna 106ff/ Green Pad

Menzerna PO85RD/Blue Pad

Menzerna Top inspection in between.





I want:

a) something that lasts more than 3 washes!

b) something that doesn't cost $500-$2500 like the high end swissvax stuff.



i'm leaning towards:

Lusso Oro or Swissvax Onyx, as far as Waxes, or Use Zaino Z2 pro as the finish.



Other recommendations are highly appreciated as well.



ps- my cars that will be used: Saphire black BMW X5, and Alpine White BMW 135i
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If you are looking for durability and a reasonable price, I would go with Zaino, Collinite, or Klearcoat Carnauba Moose Wax.
 
detaildoc said:
If you are looking for durability and a reasonable price, I would go with Zaino, Collinite, or Klearcoat Carnauba Moose Wax.
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any recommendations between these, and why? :xyxthumbs
 
Wolfgang deep gloss paint sealant is great if you want a sealant. Also fuzion is on sale at autogeek.net for $69. It's a sealant/carnuba wax combo. Comes w/a paint cleanser, but you don't get the refill. It usually caosts $175 w/a refill.
 
Collinite 918 has a high end wax finish, for a low end wax price. It scored very well against some of those high end boutique waxes over on DW in their Wax-off last year.
 
WhiteStripes said:
Collinite 918 has a high end wax finish, for a low end wax price. It scored very well against some of those high end boutique waxes over on DW in their Wax-off last year.
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Very interested for a link to this DW wax-off you speak of.
 
I'd go with 476s by collinite or IW845 by collinite as well. If you go with 476s, do a panal at a time (apply, then wipe off) DO NOT LET IT DRY. However if you do IW845, I do the entire vehicle and wipe off after applied to the whole car.



I do like Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0, very slick, and very nice looking. I get 2.5 to 3 months out of IW845, and 4 to 5 months out of 476s.



over all I'd choose collinite its available locally for me at Harbor Freight for about $9.xx or so, and its got a good look and great durability....
 
here is my shopping cart so far, anything missing?



using a P&C 7424, by the way.



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You might want to search, as I'm not 100% certain of this, but I believe the Collinite paste waxes are all the same (Fleetwax #885, 476s, and #915). If that's the case just get #885, it's the better value of the three.
 
WhiteStripes said:
Collinite 918 has a high end wax finish, for a low end wax price. It scored very well against some of those high end boutique waxes over on DW in their Wax-off last year.
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IIRC, the Collinite was 915 Marque de Elegance paste in a tin.



lostdaytomorrow said:
Very interested for a link to this DW wax-off you speak of.
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I see you already have the link.... interesting, eh?



I've been using 845 IW for years, after giving 915 a try I remember why I like IW. Like most pastes, 915 is a ton of work compared to 845IW. IMO, 845 leaves the finish slicker as well. Some think 915 has a deeper and higher shine, on my white vehicle they look identical.



Any Collinite product will give you months of longevity through weather and washes and retain a high shine. 845 adds the ease of use that allows you to reapply frequently if you desire to retain that just-waxed look. It only takes me about 20 - 30 minutes to do a full application on a full-size GMC p/u truck. But you don't *have* to apply it frequently for the vehicle to look great and get months of protection. 13 bucks a bottle, how can you beat it?



TL
 
TLMitchell said:
IIRC, the Collinite was 915 Marque de Elegance paste in a tin.
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correct, 915 = Marque de Elagance.



TLMitchell said:
I've been using 845 IW for years, after giving 915 a try I remember why I like IW. Like most pastes, 915 is a ton of work compared to 845IW. IMO, 845 leaves the finish slicker as well. Some think 915 has a deeper and higher shine, on my white vehicle they look identical.
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on a white car, that makes sense. But what about a black saphire car?



TLMitchell said:
Any Collinite product will give you months of longevity through weather and washes and retain a high shine. 845 adds the ease of use that allows you to reapply frequently if you desire to retain that just-waxed look. It only takes me about 20 - 30 minutes to do a full application on a full-size GMC p/u truck. But you don't *have* to apply it frequently for the vehicle to look great and get months of protection. 13 bucks a bottle, how can you beat it?

TL
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good info TL. One thing I was reading, which gives me a little concern about 845 is that it is very hard to get off apparently, even compared to Zaino:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing/91000-collinite-845-vs-zaino.html



any ideas?
 
ssabripo said:
correct, 915 = Marque de Elagance.





on a white car, that makes sense. But what about a black saphire car?





good info TL. One thing I was reading, which gives me a little concern about 845 is that it is very hard to get off apparently, even compared to Zaino:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing/91000-collinite-845-vs-zaino.html



any ideas?
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SS: you are over analizing this. You already have the right idea about the polishes. That IS the most important part. Polishing will give you the wet glossy look, regardless of the color of the car.



BTW, who ever said that 845 was hard to get off - :lol:lol:lol



It is easy as butter.



If you want something easy and durable, just use zaino to protect the cars.
 
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