What microfiber wash do you like?

a.k.a. Patrick said:
Its been a while since I bought Tide, but 80 loads for $10.00 (I think) is cheaper then Tide. Do the math:

Tide Original Scent 2x Liquid Detergent-64 Load - 100 Fl. Oz. $16.99

And if neither cleans better then the other, wouldnt CS be a better buy?:sign
Reading comprehension owns you.



Did I say anything about Tide? Hrm.... Not to mention you can get a 200 oz bottle here for $17.99



We use Arm and Hammer Dye and Perfume Free. 200 ozs for $6.99





:tribe: :sign
 
Just a heads up, Charlie Soap is really cheap right now at brilex solutions. I've always wanted to try charlies soap but after reading Accumulators experiences it made me hesitant
 
Cleaning Fool said:
You guys actually use a "microfiber detergent"?..Im having a hard time understanding how Tide and hot water in the washing machine won't do the same thing.



Heh heh, even though I've seen the results with my own eyes, I *still* don't understand why the MF stuff works so much better :nixweiss



howareb said:
...I have a process that seems to work for me so I am sticking with it.



That's very sensible of you :D No need to fix what isn't broken!
 
Accumulator said:
Heh heh, even though I've seen the results with my own eyes, I *still* don't understand why the MF stuff works so much better :nixweiss



Which MF detergent was it you were so impressed with?
 
I use regular detergent 80% of the time. When I feel the need to re-condition a load of MF, I certainly use one of the dedicated products. I've got a bottle of the MF Restore and one other product (I think it's the Pinnacle stuff). Both do an excellent and superior job for sprucing up and softening those MF towels.



Perhaps the dedicated potions lose some of their cleaning ability when used every time...



YMMV :)
 
WilliamHBonney said:
Reading comprehension owns you.



Did I say anything about Tide? Hrm.... Not to mention you can get a 200 oz bottle here for $17.99



We use Arm and Hammer Dye and Perfume Free. 200 ozs for $6.99





:tribe: :sign



Didnt clean any better than normal laundry soap.

You did make mention of "normal laundry soap" and Tide has taken the majority of comparisons for this threads discussion when it comes to OTC, and thats what I was referencing.

gallon of Tide

I used Liquid Tide Free and Clear HE

I will use tide next time

Tide Free with a vinegar rinse

liquid tide...

yup liquid tide

always used liquid tide

(I never mentioned you said it did I?)

follow with Era

Earths Choice

Blue Dawn

I use woolite

DryerMax Dryer Balls

Earth Choice or similar but Cheer Free

We use Arm and Hammer Dye and Perfume Free. 200 ozs for $6.99



As for both items in 200 oz qty, how many loads is 200 oz anyway?



Reading comprehension owns you.

Just what color is your kettle?
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
You did make mention of "normal laundry soap" and Tide has taken the majority of comparisons for this threads discussion when it comes to OTC, and thats what I was referencing.

gallon of Tide

I used Liquid Tide Free and Clear HE

I will use tide next time

Tide Free with a vinegar rinse

liquid tide...

yup liquid tide

always used liquid tide

(I never mentioned you said it did I?)

follow with Era

Earths Choice

Blue Dawn

I use woolite

DryerMax Dryer Balls

Earth Choice or similar but Cheer Free

We use Arm and Hammer Dye and Perfume Free. 200 ozs for $6.99



As for both items in 200 oz qty, how many loads is 200 oz anyway?





Just what color is your kettle?
But you responded to MY thread about TIDE. I did not mention TIDE. Hehehe Im just giving you sh!t brother. I felt like being argumentative. :nana:
 
So your claiming to be "special" ??? This goes back to your orginal signature saying

"People S--K".....Time to come back to Reality.



WilliamHBonney said:
And it doesnt matter what color my kettle is all that matters is that it out shines everyone elses.
 
MDRX8 said:
So your claiming to be "special" ??? This goes back to your orginal signature saying

"People S--K".....Time to come back to Reality.

Ok here is the deal and I'm going to tell you one last time. Im not into guys. You go out of your way to follow me around and post after me. I am flattered, I really am but I'm happily married to her:



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I still sand by my original (note proper spelling) signature and you are one of the reasons why.



Good day sir.
 
NickelPlated.45 said:
What are you washing, lingerie?



Where's DFtowel when you need him....



Here I am. I'm just amused as to why these threads keep popping up, it's always the same info!



Don't waste your $$ on so called dedicated MF detergents, no detergent can "know" what it's cleaning. MF can be any number of fibers from cotton to polyester to acetate to nylon to whatever. These dedicated cleaners are simply shop degreasers with a sudsing agent added, I've yet to see or test one that isn't.



Using Woolite or Charlies Soap or other detergent for delicates makes no sense, fine for your delicates like cashmere sweaters or lingerie but detailing towels? They certainly can't be classed as "delicates."



Use HOT water with a good liquid detergent such as Tide or All or Era (my favorite.) Use 1/2 what the detergent maker recommends and add 1 tablespoon of distilled white vinegar per towel to the final rise to help the fibers shed any excess detergent. Don't use bleach or fabric softeners.



Dry in a HOT dryer to fluff the towels. If you have polyester towels they won't melt! Poly melting point is 500 degrees, hottest a home dryer gets is about 135.
 
Thanks DFTowel for adding your advice. It is something I will consider.



Now I am very confused. It seems to be somewhat the opposite of what is in this DavidB thread. :hmph:



The below was taken from:

http://autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/80235-microfiber-detailing-products.html





MAINTAINING MICROFIBER

I’ve read a lot of tips on how to clean and care for microfiber. People seem to be all over the map with their recommendations. It’s really very simple.



The best general purpose cleaner is a liquid detergent. It’s better to use too little than too much. Liquid is recommended over powder because some powders do not completely dissolve and the granules will lodge in the toweling.



Wash in cold water only. Warm water can be tolerated, but hot water cannot. Polyester and polyamide both shrink in hot water. If you wash in hot water the fibers will shrink and the towel will not perform as intended.



Do not use fabric softeners of any kind. The softener will become lodged in the microfiber reducing its ability to absorb water, clean and pick up dirt. In short, you’ll have a soft towel that’s useless.



Do not dry above medium heat. Treat microfiber towels the same as you would your delicate clothing. Drying with high heat is worse that washing in hot water.



Just recently, a cleaning solution was developed specifically for cleaning microfiber towels. I tested a product called Sonus Der Wunder Wasche that claims to effectively remove dirt without using the bleaches and softeners commonly found in laundry detergents. After cleaning several loads of dirty towels, I made the switch. My towels now seem to last longer and don’t get matted down.








Sounds like care for MF towels can start a debate bigger than the Presidential Canidency.
 
The best general purpose cleaner is a liquid detergent. It’s better to use too little than too much. Liquid is recommended over powder because some powders do not completely dissolve and the granules will lodge in the toweling. Never experienced this. And its only beyond a point of solubility that the powders wont dissolve, a.k.a. too much added in the wash.



Wash in cold water only. Warm water can be tolerated, but hot water cannot. Polyester and polyamide both shrink in hot water. If you wash in hot water the fibers will shrink and the towel will not perform as intended.

Agree with DF. Cotton on the other hand shrinks considerably. Im thinking articles of clothing though, but there are near similarities) But I have never experienced a poly/poly blend shrink.



Do not use fabric softeners of any kind. The softener will become lodged in the microfiber reducing its ability to absorb water, clean and pick up dirt. In short, you’ll have a soft towel that’s useless.

I agree with this, fabric softeners are water repellents also......



Do not dry above medium heat. Treat microfiber towels the same as you would your delicate clothing. Drying with high heat is worse that washing in hot water.

I dry on hi heat, but thats my dryer. On a side note to Leo's reply, if you have an electric dryer, the element shield can reach temperatures consistent with melting synthetic products. This is a firsthand experience....
 
howareb said:
Thanks DFTowel for adding your advice. It is something I will consider.



Now I am very confused. It seems to be somewhat the opposite of what is in this DavidB thread....



With all due respect to David his info is wrong and outdated. I've been in the textile business for nearly 40 years, it's my bread and butter. So believe me when I tell you... hot water & hot dryer are fine.



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Patrick you wrote: "I dry on hi heat, but thats my dryer. On a side note to Leo's reply, if you have an electric dryer, the element shield can reach temperatures consistent with melting synthetic products. This is a firsthand experience...."



If someone has an exposed heating element or one that is in contact with the drum that the clothes can get to I'd be more worried about burning my house down than melting or charring a detailing towel! :scared:
 
bert31 said:
Which MF detergent was it you were so impressed with?



The one that initially wowed me (despite my preconceived notions) was MicroRestore.



I want to explicitly go on record as saying that I support DFTowel's statements on the whole detergent issue and I can't figure out why I don't get the results I should with normal detergents (e.g., Tide, Era, Cheer). If I didn't need to use the "MF detergents" I wouldn't and I don't expect that most people need them. I suspect it's my water or my washers or...*something.* unusual that's specific to my situation :nixweiss I'd bet that most people would do fine with regular detergent, sufficient rinses, and the distilled white vinegar in the final rinse.



FWIW, when we got our new (Duet) washer, I did some washcloths with over a *dozen* detergent-less wash/rinse cycles. I was shocked to see sudsing even after numerous of these cycles. After I did the final one (vinegar in both wash and rinse) they came out quite a bit softer and more absorbent than they'd been for a long, long time. For some reason the same approach didn't work with my MFs- they don't quite get that same "rejuvenated effect" unless I first launder them with the "MF detergent" and they then only require a few rinses (last with vinegar) to come out fine.
 
The Micro-restore cleaners do not know its microfiber it is cleaning but it was designed that way to clean sealants,polishes etc..



Regular clothes detergents will not clean the sealants out like Micro-restore cleaners.
 
warm water with liquid tide and 4-5oz's of vinegar in the last rinse cycle, and then into the dryer on the lowest heat setting with no fabric softener. this has worked fine for me with no probs...
 
I've had the best performance with MicroRestore.



I am baffled by Leo's comments as I find these detergents make a noticeably better clean compared to other detergents. I've tried Tide HE and Charlies Soap and various vinegar mixtures but MicroRestore always gets the most stains out. CMA usually has the best price but buying by gallon is the only way to go.
 
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