what make of car & how many miles do you have?

BigAl3 said:
well, sometimes not all honda's ;) . other brands are reputable too... :xyxthumbs
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Let me guess, Toyota and Nissan? :grinno:



One of my good friends works at a small business (25 or so employees) with an owner that has been giving him grief for owning Fords in the 7 years he's been there. The guy loves Honda as much as you do- and when my buddy was talking of selling his Ranger to get a Focus SVT his boss sat him down and gave him a "talk" about how great Honda is and how reliable they are, etc.



Two weeks later his boss' son had complete engine failure on his 3 year old Civic, that had regular maintenance to boot! :soscared: His boss proceeded to tell him it was "just a fluke" and bought his son another Civic! :spit:



Point of the story? Everyone knows that Japan makes some great, reliable cars...but just like ANY brand, they have problems too. What people FAIL to realize is that it isn't 1980 anymore, and American auto manufacturers can make equally reliable and high quality products too. (And they cost less, too). Bet you didn't realize Ford's Mercury division is ranked 1 slot better than Honda for initial quality in 2008, and Ford itself is ranked literally just below Honda. (Mercury 109 issues, Honda 110, Ford 112).



Just some food for thought... :bounce
 
Lumadar said:
Let me guess, Toyota and Nissan? :grinno:



One of my good friends works at a small business (25 or so employees) with an owner that has been giving him grief for owning Fords in the 7 years he's been there. The guy loves Honda as much as you do- and when my buddy was talking of selling his Ranger to get a Focus SVT his boss sat him down and gave him a "talk" about how great Honda is and how reliable they are, etc.



Two weeks later his boss' son had complete engine failure on his 3 year old Civic, that had regular maintenance to boot! :soscared: His boss proceeded to tell him it was "just a fluke" and bought his son another Civic! :spit:



Point of the story? Everyone knows that Japan makes some great, reliable cars...but just like ANY brand, they have problems too. What people FAIL to realize is that it isn't 1980 anymore, and American auto manufacturers can make equally reliable and high quality products too. (And they cost less, too). Bet you didn't realize Ford's Mercury division is ranked 1 slot better than Honda for initial quality in 2008, and Ford itself is ranked literally just below Honda. (Mercury 109 issues, Honda 110, Ford 112).



Just some food for thought... :bounce
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yeah... just like anything these days, there are problems with ALL different brands and i just say get what you want, be happy and take care of it (the Autopian way) and it should treat you right... :bigups



p.s. i passed by the dealership the other day on my way to the gym and saw a new Ford Flex and it actually looked pretty nice. i may have to stop by next time and check it out up close...

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08 Mitsubishi Lancer - 9500 miles



06 Honda Element 4wd - 17000 miles



02 Hyundai Elantra - 111,000 miles (original engine and transmission) - the only issues were a bad alternator at 50K, and a Throttle Position Sensor at 55K - both covered under warranty. This car is an experiment to see how long it will go. I still get 30mpg around town.
 
Lumadar said:
Let me guess, Toyota and Nissan? :grinno:



One of my good friends works at a small business (25 or so employees) with an owner that has been giving him grief for owning Fords in the 7 years he's been there. The guy loves Honda as much as you do- and when my buddy was talking of selling his Ranger to get a Focus SVT his boss sat him down and gave him a "talk" about how great Honda is and how reliable they are, etc.



Two weeks later his boss' son had complete engine failure on his 3 year old Civic, that had regular maintenance to boot! :soscared: His boss proceeded to tell him it was "just a fluke" and bought his son another Civic! :spit:



Point of the story? Everyone knows that Japan makes some great, reliable cars...but just like ANY brand, they have problems too. What people FAIL to realize is that it isn't 1980 anymore, and American auto manufacturers can make equally reliable and high quality products too. (And they cost less, too). Bet you didn't realize Ford's Mercury division is ranked 1 slot better than Honda for initial quality in 2008, and Ford itself is ranked literally just below Honda. (Mercury 109 issues, Honda 110, Ford 112).



Just some food for thought... :bounce
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:werd: My 2002 Maxima had volumes of TSBs whereas the wife's 2008 Edge only had 3.
 
Lumadar said:
...Bet you didn't realize Ford's Mercury division is ranked 1 slot better than Honda for initial quality in 2008, and Ford itself is ranked literally just below Honda. (Mercury 109 issues, Honda 110, Ford 112).



Just some food for thought... :bounce
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JD Powers INITIAL quality doesn't predict how long a vehicle will last, only what people's first impressions are. My wife's Mercedes had a lot of little issues, but at 184K it's still very solid and I'm sure it will go to 300K before we're sick of driving it.
 
1981 Mercedes 300TD 139,000

1986 Mercedes 300SDL 240,000

1992 Dodge Ram 250 Cummins 106,000

2004 Tahoe Z71 62,000



I love my old diesels. They run forever and I can run B100 in them. I really want to sell the Tahoe. Never been a worse time to try and sell a big SUV though. If I could get rid of it, I would buy an e36 M3 or a 1980s 911. Ahhh, then life would be perfect.
 
itb76 said:
JD Powers INITIAL quality doesn't predict how long a vehicle will last, only what people's first impressions are. My wife's Mercedes had a lot of little issues, but at 184K it's still very solid and I'm sure it will go to 300K before we're sick of driving it.
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Of course it is the "end all, be all" but it is about as solid an indicator as there is available. It's impossible to predict for sure, but it's a general indicator that if they couldn't get X, Y, Z right from the get-go then they probably won't make the vehicle to last for the long term either.



Of course, there are exceptions to everything :cool:
 
Lumadar said:
Of course it is the "end all, be all" but it is about as solid an indicator as there is available. It's impossible to predict for sure, but it's a general indicator that if they couldn't get X, Y, Z right from the get-go then they probably won't make the vehicle to last for the long term either.



Of course, there are exceptions to everything :cool:
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I think a point that most people don't think about (when it comes to initial quality reports) is what car is being purchased and who is purchasing it. I would think that some people buying a less expensive american car would be less finicky about creaks and rattles (especially if they are used to it) than someone who carefully selects an imported car and pays meticulous attention to every detail. Just my humble opinion and one of the many factors that affect reports like those.
 
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