what i've learned...

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imported_glfahlc

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since joining this forum and becoming interested in detailing cars, that a clean car isn't necessarily a clean car. i'm so impressed with the work that you pros do to cars to really make them clean and spotless that my car will never be the clean and freshly detailed car that you guys get paid to do. i now know that when i see a clean car on the street the first thing i look for is wash swirls, if it has them then it really isn't perfect...
 
Now my 7 year old little girl spots vehicles with swirls and scratches, and makes comments about them. Funny thing is, she can work a DA better than 99% of the people out there(not detailers)

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Nick Chapman said:
Now my 7 year old little girl spots vehicles with swirls and scratches, and makes comments about them. Funny thing is, she can work a DA better than 99% of the people out there(not detailers)

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Gorgeous Girl Nick, you are training her well :thumbup: I have always found that if I could make the 'wifes' see the swirls I had a customer for life :D
 
Nick Chapman said:
Now my 7 year old little girl spots vehicles with swirls and scratches, and makes comments about them. Funny thing is, she can work a DA better than 99% of the people out there(not detailers)
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My 15 year old daughter goes to car shows with me and with the owner of the car standing right there she will start pointing out all the defects in the paint - swirls, holograms, dirty engines etc. It's hilarious watching the look on the owner's face when she does that, especially when we walk away and watch them try to see what she sees.
 
SilverS8 said:
My 15 year old daughter goes to car shows with me and with the owner of the car standing right there she will start pointing out all the defects in the paint - swirls, holograms, dirty engines etc. It's hilarious watching the look on the owner's face when she does that, especially when we walk away and watch them try to see what she sees.
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Glad I'm not the only one.

The only problem for me is that I drive down the freeway and it's all that I see.

Swirl...

Swirl...

Holograms...

Swirl...

:D
 
glfahlc said:
...when i see a clean car on the street the first thing i look for is wash swirls, if it has them then it really isn't perfect...
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Even worse is a car with "buffer trails"! I saw a car this weekend... The really proud owner of a shiny black Mercedes that was just "professionally polished" by the dealer.... nearly ruined by buffer trails/burns!!!

The car's owner thought it looked great. How could he not see the trails, even in direct sunlight?????:confused:

I told him to take the car back and have the dealer re-paint it!:mad:

He still thinks it looks great.:cursing:Stop [I'm not understanding.]
 
Tucson buffer said:
Can someone, please show me what a "hologram" looks like, and what do you pros do about it?
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Holograms or buffer trails can be caused by a variety of poor techniques using a rotary polisher, but generally by aggressive polishing/compounding not followed by a finish polish. Using the correct polish/pad/speed/technique for the given job/paint will help avoid and/or remove holograms. Well that's the abridged version.
 
biolink said:
Holograms or buffer trails can be caused by a variety of poor techniques using a rotary polisher, but generally by aggressive polishing/compounding not followed by a finish polish. Using the correct polish/pad/speed/technique for the given job/paint will help avoid and/or remove holograms. Well that's the abridged version.
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Excellent description!:thumbup:
 
glfahlc said:
you let her practice on the bimmer nick....kewl
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This is a buddies car. He brought it over, needing some oxidation removed. Trust me when I sat that there is no way should could of hurt this vehicle anymore than it already was. This thing was trashed! That quarter in the picture, was the best looking part of the entire car :D

She does good though, I let her work on our cars, and the van. I figure in about a year, she'll be trustworthy enough to work on customers cars. She really does understand what she's doing, and she really can make an improvement on a vehicle. She doesn't just move the DA across the paint. She works the product in, and removes defects. At the moment, her biggest "before/after" is oxidation, but she's getting it.

You should have seen her when my buddy came and picked up his bimmer, she was telling him how much work she put into it, and not to ever look like that again :D I was so proud! :cornut:
 
Gentelmen, thanks for the photos and explaination on "hologram's". I haven't caused any holograms myself and now I know what to look for....thanks again.
 
Tucson buffer said:
Gentelmen, thanks for the photos and explaination on "hologram's". I haven't caused any holograms myself and now I know what to look for....thanks again.
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The example given was great for demonstration purposes, but they are usually very subtle and you need to look at the paint in the sun and move back and forth across a panel to detect them.
 
blk45 said:
The example given was great for demonstration purposes, but they are usually very subtle and you need to look at the paint in the sun and move back and forth across a panel to detect them.
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You are right about that, they can be tough to see. My niece had holograms on her suburban that could only be seen in certain light at night. They were tough to see in the sun because of the white color. I removed them with my PC and FPII.
 
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