What is your favorite rinseless wash ?

quebert said:
.. I looked on Garry`s site and see Forever Rinseless. It`s cheaper than IUDJ+Juice Boost by a good amount. But I can`t find any comparisons of the 2. Is IUDJ+Boost worth the extra $$$?
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I too would like to see some reviews/comparisons.... by reliable, objective, people who aren`t fanboys ;)

One thing that gives me pause is that he "recommends" that you only mix up one gallon at a time, which I interpret as "it goes bad after a while". Wonder if that`s really the case...it`d be a deal-breaker for me, but maybe not for others who go through it a lot faster.


And, again, this is maybe just me...I like the idea of *not* using the expensive stuff for everything all the time. If/when I try the IUDJ + JB, I`ll basically use that as a SprayWax after I`ve let something else do the heavy lifting.
 
Accumulator said:
I too would like to see some reviews/comparisons.... by reliable, objective, people who aren`t fanboys ;)

One thing that gives me pause is that he "recommends" that you only mix up one gallon at a time, which I interpret as "it goes bad after a while". Wonder if that`s really the case...it`d be a deal-breaker for me, but maybe not for others who go through it a lot faster.


And, again, this is maybe just me...I like the idea of *not* using the expensive stuff for everything all the time. If/when I try the IUDJ + JB, I`ll basically use that as a SprayWax after I`ve let something else do the heavy lifting.
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Does Gary even have Fanboys? Adam`s has craaaazy fanboys, If anything you`d need to find reliable, objective reviews by people who don`t think he`s a scum of the earth scam artist. The few videos I`ve found on YT with other people using his products, the comments are chocked full of people absolutely trashing him. I read a comment on an IUDJ video where the person complained about it`s awful dilution ratio, which is 1/4oz per gallon. Whether or not you like the product, or think it`s expensive. How can you moan about that dilution ratio? lol. People just don`t want to ever say anything nice about dude. I`ll probably order a 16oz of Forever to try it out, as I doubt I`ll ever be able to find a subjective review. And the other product I was all hyped on ordering (Feynlab Pure Rinseless) turned out to be a wax and sealant stripping mess apparently :(
 
quebert said:
Does Gary even have Fanboys? Adam`s has craaaazy fanboys, If anything you`d need to find reliable, objective reviews by people who don`t think he`s a scum of the earth scam artist. The few videos I`ve found on YT with other people using his products, the comments are chocked full of people absolutely trashing him... People just don`t want to ever say anything nice about dude. .
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The way Garry comes across online kinda lends itself to extreme opinions both pro and con. Garry`s uhm....Online Personna...makes him an easy target for people who like to denigrate others. I`ll readily admit he comes across as, uhm...somebody I wouldn`t want to get stuck in an elevator with...but again, in my limited dealings with him he was 100% stand-up and I admire and respect him (which I sure don`t say lightly).

And more to the point, I have *ZERO*criticisms of the IUDJ. None at all. Period. And I`m no fan of RWs in general.


..I`ll probably order a 16oz of Forever to try it out, as I doubt I`ll ever be able to find a subjective review.
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I think you meant "an OBJECTIVE" review ;) If you do get some Forever Rinseless, I`d love to hear what you think of it. If you happen to discuss this stuff with him when you order, I`d also be interested to hear what he has to say about "why choose that over IUDJ + JB", although you might have to, uhm...nudge him out of "all my stuff is wonderful!"-salesman mode ;)
 
I have zero experience with any rinseless washes but plan on picking one up for winter.

I am looking at McKee’s 37 n-914 as a first go at it. Is there any sort of pre-spray I should get to spray the panel with prior? (Remember I will be doing this for winter cleaning). I have actually though about just going to the pay n spray and washing the spraying the grime off and then doing the rinseless wash? Good idea or bad idea?


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Accumulator said:
The way Garry comes across online kinda lends itself to extreme opinions both pro and con. Garry`s uhm....Online Personna...makes him an easy target for people who like to denigrate others. I`ll readily admit he comes across as, uhm...somebody I wouldn`t want to get stuck in an elevator with...but again, in my limited dealings with him he was 100% stand-up and I admire and respect him (which I sure don`t say lightly).

And more to the point, I have *ZERO*criticisms of the IUDJ. None at all. Period. And I`m no fan of RWs in general.




I think you meant "an OBJECTIVE" review ;) If you do get some Forever Rinseless, I`d love to hear what you think of it. If you happen to discuss this stuff with him when you order, I`d also be interested to hear what he has to say about "why choose that over IUDJ + JB", although you might have to, uhm...nudge him out of "all my stuff is wonderful!"-salesman mode ;)
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I emailed him asking which would be better protection wise, IUDJ+JB or Forever. He told to go with Forever. Seeing how it`s considerably cheaper I gotta give him a thumbs up in the honesty department. He didn`t get into any details why, but he recommended the cheaper route so I`m okay with the suggestion.
 
Do yourself a favor and grab some of his Magnum Motorcycle Juice, it`s more on par price wise with the budget friendly rinseless washes and is neck and neck with duragloss rinseless in my opinion for the best out of the dozen or so I`ve tried. I prefer it to iudj and if memory serves me, it`s half the price or less.
 
Astouffer512 said:
I have zero experience with any rinseless washes but plan on picking one up for winter.

I am looking at McKee’s 37 n-914 as a first go at it. Is there any sort of pre-spray I should get to spray the panel with prior? (Remember I will be doing this for winter cleaning). I have actually though about just going to the pay n spray and washing the spraying the grime off and then doing the rinseless wash? Good idea or bad idea?


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N-914 is one of the best. Definitely the best cleaning rinseless wash. Car pro ech2o rinseless wash leaves a better finish. Optimum no rinse (ONR) is also great. I just use a one gallon sprayer filled with the rinseless wash solution to spray on to soak prior to washing. I use the optimum big red sponge with a grit guard in the bucket. If you have a car wash close to you to spray the grime off that works best. If you don’t, that’s ok just be careful not to use much pressure when you’re washing so you don’t scratch the finish. If you do it without rinsing I’d recommend using the Gary Dean two bucket method.


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quebert said:
I emailed him asking which would be better protection wise, IUDJ+JB or Forever. He told to go with Forever. Seeing how it`s considerably cheaper I gotta give him a thumbs up in the honesty department. He didn`t get into any details why, but he recommended the cheaper route so I`m okay with the suggestion.
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That sounds like Garry, so maybe that *is* the right route for most people.

top189h said:
Do yourself a favor and grab some of his Magnum Motorcycle Juice, it`s more on par price wise with the budget friendly rinseless washes and is neck and neck with duragloss rinseless in my opinion for the best out of the dozen or so I`ve tried. I prefer it to iudj and if memory serves me, it`s half the price or less.
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Hey, that`s interesting! Why do you like it better than the IUDJ? Better cleaning?
 
Astouffer512 said:
I have zero experience with any rinseless washes but plan on picking one up for winter.. I have actually though about just going to the pay n spray and washing the spraying the grime off and then doing the rinseless wash? Good idea or bad idea?
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IMO the more touchless cleaning you do before using the RW the better,whether at a spray-it-yourself place or one of those robotic touchless setups. IMO that`d be a lot better than trying to use something else as a pre-spray. BUT...no free lunch!..most touchless places use pretty potent chemicals, which can really compromise LSPs. Eh, I`d still rather do it that way, and the touchless (if you find a good one) will hopefully have an undercarriage spray.
 
I don`t have a strong opinion on rinseless washes, generally preferring the more traditional bucket washes. The two I have used over the years are ONR and IUDJ + JB. More often than not I use these as drying aids and cleaning door jambs. After several bottles (16 oz) of IUDJ (boosted w/JB) I can only say that it is a very average performer. It cleans door jambs OK, nothing stellar, just OK. Where I feel it under performs is protection (based on Dean`s claims). As stated earlier in this thread, Garry Dean`s public persona can be off-putting, and I disregard most all of his hype and hyperbole about his abilities and those of his products. That being said, I still might try the FR product, if the right sale price comes along. ONR is no better or worse than IUDJ + JB when it comes to cleaning, but I wish they would calm the blue dye factor down.

Edit to add: Another failure for IUDJ + JB is on glass. Can you say SMEAR?
 
GearHead_1 said:
Wow! Nice to see you on the board Mr. Clean.
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YES!! Good to see you posting! And I really appreciated your takes on IUDJ + JB and ONR (which I assume is a much newer version than I have).

I`ve never really asked my RW to do any significant cleaning, so the mediocrity there was news to me..good to know that though.

Also good to know that the protection doesn`t last all that long...although I`m still impressed with how UNboosted IUDJ does in that regard (hey, color me easily impressed perhaps ;) ). I do wonder how you would gauge its durability...Garry of course makes it sound like it`ll hold up like some coating ;) since he`s a salesman.

Does the ONR`s blue tint still fade away the way it does with my older version? After being mixed for a while it fades away to near-clear but still works the same.

Now I`m hoping you (and others) post about the FR.

Oh, and I can never get RW to work right on glass at all. I end up just cleaning it off with a Glass Cleaner when it gets on there.
 
It seems to clean better, and even leaves behind a little protection. I just mix up a gallon or two and do the inside, outside, wheels, windows engine bay, everything with it and it just flat works. It may be a placebo effect that I like it more just because of the price difference, but I certainly wouldn`t say iudj is any better much less twice as good.
 
The IUDJ, unboosted, leaves a surprising amount of protection behind too. I wipe down our trashcan (inside and out..we use liners) every week, and that thing seems LSPed. Really glossy and slick, beads like crazy.

I`m trying to figure out whether JB, or even FR, would be worth the upgrade. Sorta leaning towards "not broke/don`t fix".
 
Hello all. Accumulator, you easily impressed? I doubt that. As far as gauging durability, that would be an excellent question for Garry. As for me, my less than scientific assessment is how the surface reacts to water, how it resists (releases) dirt/grime, and slickness. I don`t ask too much from my RW`s either. Door jambs do get dirtier than one would think and I sometimes surprise myself with "how did I miss that spot" and bird/bug leftovers that the mitt did not completely resolve.

I don`t recall the age of my ONR, but the blue does not dissipate.
 
Mr. Clean- I`m certain your ONR is a lot newer than mine, especially with the lingering color.

And yeah...jambs *do* get dirty! Sigh, the ones on the Audis take forever to do.

Heh heh, I bet my being impressed with the IUDJ has to do with my utter *LACK* of positive impression regarding ONR and QEW (anybody remember *that* one?). That and Garry`s persona...I mean, between my previous experiences with RW and the way he comes across online, I might`ve set the bar pretty low. But OTOH, I *did* buy a whole gallon of the stuff!

And again, Garry Dean is 100% stand-up, a true gentleman whom I`m happy to do business with.

EDIT: I`ve posted before about how the first time I used IUDJ to clean wheels I went ahead and let it get on the rotors, thinking "it`ll wear right off the first time I apply the brakes". Wrong, the first (nice and firm) brake application didn`t do anything except raise my bloodpressure and make me glad I didn`t really need to stop. NEVER expected that. That made a definite impression regarding the stuff it leaves behind.
 
Bill D- Heh heh, I knew *somebody* here would remember that QEW :D Yeah, I just *bet* you`re glad those days are behind you!
 
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