What is the best way to do an extremely mild polish? (pics)

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Downgear

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I have done a great deal or reading and research and consider myself a very skilled autopian, however I am still stuck at one small question. I have only polished my black Honda once about 8 months ago and its still virtually flawless thanks to everyones incredible washing tips and techniques. After driving my car over the winter I notice very slight imperfections or marring on select areas. I use p106ff, a white lake country pad and rotary to polisher and have always made my cars flawless with this system.



My problem is that i feel this might be too harsh considering how light the damage is. I love the way 106ff finishes however can i keep re-applying it safely or it going to be taking off too much clear coat? What polish do others use just to "touch up" a virtually flawless car in the spring time or in time of need? Is final polish II a better polish to touch up with because its less abrasive?









Here are some picture of the minor imperfections i am talking about. I apologize for the dusty dirty car...one drive on dirty winter time roads + a black paint creates TONS of dust all over the entire car. You can see its not really swirl marks but just very minor marring around where the light hits it.









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Thanks very much for any help!



Joe
 
I would use the 106ff on a finishing pad. If you are concerned about the clear coat you may want to invest in a tool to measure the microns of the clearcoat.
 
I guess more than anything i just wanted to get a feel for what others are doing for a mild polish. My car has only been polished once and I know i have close to full clear coat left, however I just want to keep it that way over the years using the best techniques.
 
Downgear said:
I guess more than anything i just wanted to get a feel for what others are doing for a mild polish. My car has only been polished once and I know i have close to full clear coat left, however I just want to keep it that way over the years using the best techniques.
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In that case, you'll be fine using 10FF with a finishing pad combo on your Honda for a long time. A black/gray LC pad or a 3M soft black waffle pad are safe and not a strong enough to remove large amounts of clear.



Other options:



Zaino Z-PC Fusion

Menzerna 85RD

3M Ultrafina SE

Zaino AIO
 
I also have Menzerna 85RD, however why is that everyone says it is best to finish with P106ff?? 85RD i know is less abrasive and seems to be what i need in my situation - but if 106ff with a LC black pad is safe to use 1-2 times a year for the life of the car, than i will do that.
 
With those baby swirls, it's easier to just hand apply some Glare micro finish to fill them in and then professional polish to lock in the fillers and protect the paint for 12 months



That's all I do with mine now. Just keep filling them in, they will not wash out with this system.



Then once every 18 months you could 106FF once or twice with finishing pads to remove them
 
Yes, use the 85RD. You may have gotten bad advice about it from people who confused it with 85RD3.01, which is a much stronger polish.
 
integritydetail said:
PoliSeal would do it.
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Agreed, and although poli-seal is truly abrasive and will remove swirls, for a black daily driver with paint as soft as honda's paint, I would say that because this is your own car and not a customer's that you should consider using a filler type product.



On my own black daily driver, I will only polish once or twice a year, in-between the swirls are so incredibly light that a decent cleaner/ filler like RMG or Victoria Wax Deep Cleanse will do the job just fine.



Also using a product that cleans the paint well as well as fills means that you only need to clay once or twice a year as well. Personally, when I use VW deep cleanse, I get away with (only on my own car) claying and abrasive polishing once a year.





In most instances I am not a candidate of fillers, never on a customer's vehicle, however, you seem like the perfect candidate.
 
DieselMDX said:
I have been told ps has fillers any truth to that?



also r u affiliated with Opt? if so any new products coming out soon?
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No fillers that I'm aware of. As a matter of fact, I'd have to say no just from the durability alone that I've seen. I'm affiliated as a satisfied customer, but I find the more of their stuff I try- the more I buy. Only thing I'm not satisfied with is their compounds. They just released OCW v.2 and a dedicated QD. They are working on a Wheel Cleaner and Carpet Cleaner I believe.
 
ron231 said:
Agreed, and although poli-seal is truly abrasive and will remove swirls, for a black daily driver with paint as soft as honda's paint, I would say that because this is your own car and not a customer's that you should consider using a filler type product.



On my own black daily driver, I will only polish once or twice a year, in-between the swirls are so incredibly light that a decent cleaner/ filler like RMG or Victoria Wax Deep Cleanse will do the job just fine.



Also using a product that cleans the paint well as well as fills means that you only need to clay once or twice a year as well. Personally, when I use VW deep cleanse, I get away with (only on my own car) claying and abrasive polishing once a year.





In most instances I am not a candidate of fillers, never on a customer's vehicle, however, you seem like the perfect candidate.
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PoliSeal is just like other OPT stuff and is pad dependant for the amount of cut. If you have soft paint, just use a softer pad and work your way down. Not sure who started the filler thing, though...
 
integritydetail said:
No fillers that I'm aware of. As a matter of fact, I'd have to say no just from the durability alone that I've seen. I'm affiliated as a satisfied customer, but I find the more of their stuff I try- the more I buy. Only thing I'm not satisfied with is their compounds. They just released OCW v.2 and a dedicated QD. They are working on a Wheel Cleaner and Carpet Cleaner I believe.
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looking forward to the carpet cleaner



I did not like there polishes either
 
I actually was wrong, I have final polish II in my collection not 85RD. I cant seem to find any places that sell 85RD as it seems to be fairly rare in the US and Canada. Where have others purchased it? I am excited to try this new product with a black finishing pad now, especially since i don't have to worry about wearing off all my clear coat if i do a few light polishes to make my car perfect every once in a while. Thanks for all the advice guys!



It always seemed that every post i read people used SIP followed by 106ff to finish. I never heard of this 85RD being added into the mix as a "true" final finisher.
 
Downgear said:
I actually was wrong, I have final polish II in my collection not 85RD. I cant seem to find any places that sell 85RD as it seems to be fairly rare in the US and Canada. Where have others purchased it? I am excited to try this new product with a black finishing pad now, especially since i don't have to worry about wearing off all my clear coat if i do a few light polishes to make my car perfect every once in a while. Thanks for all the advice guys!



It always seemed that every post i read people used SIP followed by 106ff to finish. I never heard of this 85RD being added into the mix as a "true" final finisher.
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integritydetail said:
No fillers that I'm aware of. As a matter of fact, I'd have to say no just from the durability alone that I've seen. I'm affiliated as a satisfied customer, but I find the more of their stuff I try- the more I buy. Only thing I'm not satisfied with is their compounds. They just released OCW v.2 and a dedicated QD. They are working on a Wheel Cleaner and Carpet Cleaner I believe.
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Power Clean is their Wheel Cleaner/APC. Carpet Cleaner & others are in the works.
 
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