What do you like under EX-P?

maecrispy

Obsessed... who me?
Most of the cars I've done are dark but my ride is metallic silver. I've currently got the WG twins on and I love the look. I've also done AIO/SG and AIO/NXT but WG is still my fav for now.



I like experimenting though and I really want to try something clearer and EX-P looks intriguing. However I have no experience with EX-P at all.



So... those who have used EX-P, any advice on what to use under it? Is the AIO I have good w/ EX-P? I've also seen VM as a possibility. I don't plan on topping EX-P but if anybody feels strongly that a particular topper would enhance EX-P's clarity, I'd give it a shot.



Scottwax's description says what I want...I want the dipped in salad oil clear look. I know the car's silver so it won't be hyper-reflective but I want something in between a deep carnauba look (which WG is pretty good at) and the thin, plasticy look of Zaino.



All suggestions are both welcome and appreciated!
 
I love EX-P over WG on both my black (Z28) and silver metallic Escort. I did a black '99 Silverado Extended Cab 2 weeks ago and after Menzerna IP, I AIO, WG sealant and EX-P (done over 3 days). Owner loved the results.



See no reason or possible benefits by topping EX-P. :wavey
 
So... those who have used EX-P, any advice on what to use under it? Is the AIO I have good w/ EX-P? I've also seen VM as a possibility.



I have used both on Black, and VM looks best on my Paint!
 
PwC or VM is what I have been using. I still haven't topped it. If I do, it will be with Natty Wax, #16 or S100...something similarly clear.
 
I am very pleased with VM + 2x EXP + #16. I can't honestly say #16 made much visual difference. I use it anyway because I top the VM on my clear 3M film with either S-100 (easy to remove - no scratches please) or #16 (I am quick and gentle). I would probably use just VM on the film but I wash bugs off often. The S-100 doesn't seem to stop yellow bug stains but #16 always does. My other reason for using VM is I use it on the windows, trim, lights, etc.

VM is my absolute favorite detailing product. They say Poorboys is pretty close, but I haven't tried it yet. :usa
 
VM it is! Now if I could just find a site that sells both Clearkote and Poorboy's...



Quick question: Will VM remove my WG for me?



I saw scottwax's review of it so I know it has cleaners but I'm not sure if that means it will remove sealants as well. CK's website wasn't terribly helpful.



I'm hoping to just VM over what I have now assuming that it will remove WG. The car's only a couple months old and was clayed and polished just a month ago so I don't think a full prep is warranted.



blkZ28Conv's suggestion of EX-P over WG is intriguing too. I might just have to try that first since I've got WG on right now anyway. :p
 
I have VM topped with EX-P on my car right now. Awesome combo. VM will remove whatever is underneath of it, so yes, VM the entire car and then go right to the EX-P :xyxthumbs
 
Now see, that's why I like this forum. Good info, nice clear answers. Thx breakneckvtec!



Now I just have to convince my wife that it really will look different with VM + EX-P. To her, the car's either clean or it's dirty. :p



Went ahead and ordered from SpecialityMotoring. Way too easy to order stuff from them using Paypal.



Once I get the combo on, I'll post pics.
 
I have a new auto that has only been hand washed.



I am ready to apply my first protective products.



I plan to wash, dry and clay.



Then apply NxT toped with Ex-P How does this combo sound for good results. Iam new at detailing. Are there any other suggestions to my plan?
 
NXT topped by EX-P should work fine. NXT will (very) lightly clean the paint and while EX-P will probably remove the protective properties of NXT, it has its own so I wouldn't worry about that.
 
Scottwax said:
NXT topped by EX-P should work fine. NXT will (very) lightly clean the paint and while EX-P will probably remove the protective properties of NXT, it has its own so I wouldn't worry about that.



Scott,

From my observations EX-P has no more cleaning (solvent) ability than #16, Souveran, Natty or P21S. All seem to leave the WG intact. Why do you think EX-P has more cleaning ability? Just curious. :wavey
 
speaking about the wet look that vm gives with exp. I was reading on another forum that ssr1 leaves a wet finish as a final step before EX-P has anyone tried it.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
Scott,

From my observations EX-P has no more cleaning (solvent) ability than #16, Souveran, Natty or P21S. All seem to leave the WG intact. Why do you think EX-P has more cleaning ability? Just curious. :wavey



Not necessarily cleaning ability as it is a product function, but any carriers it might have. It will remove light tar spots, for example. You do have to rub though, it isn't like a quick pass works. I don't know for sure though, just that most liquids tend to have some carriers.
 
Scottwax said:
Not necessarily cleaning ability as it is a product function, but any carriers it might have. It will remove light tar spots, for example. You do have to rub though, it isn't like a quick pass works. I don't know for sure though, just that most liquids tend to have some carriers.



Makes sense to me Scott. My protocol requires that I wait at least several days before topping WG to allow full curing. Maybe this increases resistance to complete removal. :nixweiss



I must have a different batch of EX-P (preferred customer stock ;) ). My EX-P on top of WG beads like crazy on my silver metallic daily driver. :nixweiss
 
Edwin-EX-P beads real well for me too, in the rain, but when you hit it with a high pressure hose, the water sheets off and the car is nearly dry. I took some pics of this, I'll post them when I finish this roll. Really cool, saves a lot of time drying.
 
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