Wax Streaking Problems..

MartinD said:
I would try the wipedown. That should remove everything from the panel.
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Yeah, the IPA+water spritz will remove a great deal of the wax layer, and also address your streaking problem.
 
This is what I need correct? And am I supposed to dilute this even more?



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bwalker25 said:
+1 to what martind said, an IPA wipe down is in order here. He is waxing over the oils left behind by the polishes. Failing to do an IPA wipe down after polishing and waxing over the oils will cause this streaking.
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I wonder if this is the correct diagnosis. Folks have been applying carnauba waxes over polishing and glaze oils for a long time, without encountering wax holograms on a consistent basis--at least so I am told. Do we in fact truly know that polishing/glaze oils cause streaking? Even if we do not truly know that this is so, does this in fact represent the Autopian consensus?



I recently email Dom at Dodo Juice about this problem, and he suggested that wax holograms are caused by:



1) the composition of the wax (oilier products are more greasy)



2) overapplication of the product



3) poor curing conditions (high humidity etc)



I wonder if either #2 or #3 (especially #3) might be responsible for the problems Twanksta is experiencing, especially since he has been using Lusso Oro a good while now and this problem has only just recently emerged.



Cheers,

Al
 
Bleh... wax streaking problems. Hate that. It does seem like it happens most often when you don't do an IPA or prepsol wipe down prior to waxing, but it has happened a few times to me even after a good wipe down. I've had success using most of the recommendations already given in this thread, except I've never tried using a weak IPA solution; I'd be too concerned about it compromising the remaining wax.



Stuff that seems to work the best for me:



1. Carnauba based QD's. As David Fermani said, I get great results with Zymol's Field Glaze. Kinda off topic, but Field Glaze also does a great job of removing the "pseudo holograms" of 476S, and it also clears up haziness some carnaubas will develop after they've cured a while. Be advised, though, that Field Glaze does take some finesse to use. You need to work it until it's *totally* dry. If you don't, it'll streak.



2. "Spit Shining" with cold distilled water. This seems to work best on wax that hasn't cured for a really long time. For me, it works best within a couple hours of wax application.



3. Fk1 425 QD. It's not carnauba based, but it still seems to work well on wax streaking. Plus, it leaves the wax less static-y.



Let us know how it goes!
 
I got a car to finish up tomorrow, its white though but well see if I can catch anything on this one..I picked up some IPA so I shouldnt have any problems..also orderd opti-seal, supernatural sample pot, and p21s 100% bc I wanted to try something in that range besides Lusso(even though I love Lusso when it works!) ;) Cant wait!
 
I'll throw you a curve ball to investigate, then something I've discovered several years back;

CURVE BALL: Your MF towels may have residual softening agents on them from the dryer. When they mix with the oils off the wax they cause the smearing you see. I have to wipe down the inside of the dryer with White Vinegar to get all the softening ingredients out before drying my MF's.



DISCOVERY: I've found all waxes tend to settle in the can/tub/etc, especially in warm/hot temps. Since I had similar problems you've listed, I tested it and it's obvious the oils do migrate to the bottom (where you are now). Every tub I get is kept upside down the minute it comes in. The day or two before waxing I 'upright' the container. This has helped tremendously. (NOTE: stored in temps about 70/75 degrees).



To assist with removal, use very, very cold water and cool the whole panel and the residual oil down for a minute or two, this will 'slightly' harden the oils which will come off easier with several quick wipe downs. You may have to do this more than once. Then use a glaze to assist with any residual areas. I'd suggest using a QD, but I personally haven't found that to be the answer in all cases.



Hope this helps,

Good Luck.
 
VERY cool info! I will keep all of that in mind! I just ordered new MF's also, I noticed mine starting to shed. It could have been pretty much everything that could go wrong, going wrong...haha! Sun, Humidity, No IPA(Menzerna top inspect. only), bottom of tub of wax, deteriorating mf's.



Hopefully my order gets here tomorrow with my opti-seal, dodo supernatural, p21s 100%, and new cobra MF's! Ill top that with a nice IPA wipedown and the cold water and it will be inside the garage and I shouldnt have this problem anymore!
 
Funny you mention P21s ... as it's my favorite. It's a pain because it is so 'moist', and it's the one I realized had to store the container upside down to keep from settling.

Best of luck with the new products ... looking forward to hearing your results.
 
Saintlysins said:
Funny you mention P21s ... as it's my favorite. It's a pain because it is so 'moist', and it's the one I realized had to store the container upside down to keep from settling.

Best of luck with the new products ... looking forward to hearing your results.
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Got any tips on the proper way to use it? I know lusso is quite "moist" also when new, and sort of requires a learning curve to get it right..
 
I just used Collinite 845 and noticed some streaking and holograms on the paint afterwards, all I did was clay the car, and straight to Collinite because the finish was still nice and just wanted winter protection, no matter what I did on the hood, it streaked, but no where else... I used AIO on the hood, removed the streaking, reapplied Collinite, still streaked.



I will note there was alot of Humidity, nearly 95% or more that day.



I used a MF bonnet over wool on my pc to remove the collinite which could have been my mistake on the holograms :(



Oh well a spring polish should clean it up.
 
dmxsoulja3 said:
I just used Collinite 845 and noticed some streaking and holograms on the paint afterwards, all I did was clay the car, and straight to Collinite because the finish was still nice and just wanted winter protection, no matter what I did on the hood, it streaked, but no where else... I used AIO on the hood, removed the streaking, reapplied Collinite, still streaked.



I will note there was alot of Humidity, nearly 95% or more that day.



I used a MF bonnet over wool on my pc to remove the collinite which could have been my mistake on the holograms :(



Oh well a spring polish should clean it up.
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Nah, that's actually a pretty good way of removing LSP residue. I do it with sealants more than waxes, though, as I can't seem to get waxes off as well with a PC.



The Colliniites are known for leaving pseudo-holograms. Look up a couple posts for some suggestions on getting rid of em.
 
My methods for my own cars or for a show-car is very time consuming. Simplified it's as follows;

At least 4 to 6 thin coats of P21s, with at least 5 to 7 days between coats. The car is stored in low humidity conditions and not driven at all between coats.

Here in Jersey with the snow and road salts, it's pretty easy to put the sled up on jacks and leave it for a while. In Orlando, I don't' know that I'd be able to do it with good weather all the time:woot2:.



I'll be doing it again in the middle of January. If you look up a post of mine regarding Atlantic City Valet Warning, :bawling: then you can see what happened and why I'll be starting from scratch ... again!
 
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