Wax removal procedure

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FishWagon

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When I first got my new truck home last October, I treated it to Clay, Klasse AIO, Jeff's AJT, and Collinite. I have waxed numerous times since then but I believe it is time for some fresh synthetic sealant (AJT). How should I prep (remove current wax)? The paint is VERY clean still, but definitely has wax that needs removal. I would prefer one step removal (if possible).

Should I....

1) Just wash with Dawn?

2) Use AIO? Does that remove wax?

3) Clay?





Also, do I really need to let the AJT cure overnight before topping with wax?
 
Dawn won't dent a healthy coat of Collinite (at lesat not unless you use it full-strength and good luck rinsing all those suds off if you try that!), and claying aggressively enough to compromise the Collinite would be, IMO, misusing the clay (I clay my Collinite all the time and it sure doesn't take it off).



AIO *might* do it, but it might just make for a smeary, hard to remove residue instead.



I'd either wipe it down with a solvent like PrepSol or wash it with something like AutoInt's "A" or P21S TAW.
 
Accumulator said:
Dawn won't dent a healthy coat of Collinite (at lesat not unless you use it full-strength and good luck rinsing all those suds off if you try that!), and claying aggressively enough to compromise the Collinite would be, IMO, misusing the clay (I clay my Collinite all the time and it sure doesn't take it off).



AIO *might* do it, but it might just make for a smeary, hard to remove residue instead.



I'd either wipe it down with a solvent like PrepSol or wash it with something like AutoInt's "A" or P21S TAW.
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Can you explain a little more about P21S TAW? The description says nothing about removing wax which would make me think it is ok as a normal car wash. Shouldn't there be a warning about not using it as your weekly car wash?



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I first started using P21S Total Auto Wash in 1988 as a general purpose cleaner on my first Porsche. On the exterior, I used it as a tar and bug cleaner. Under the hood, I used it to clean the engine. Inside, I used it on my floor mats, carpet and upholstery stains. It's one of the best general purpose cleaners I've found. No serious car enthusiast should be without it.



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beachwolverine said:
Can you explain a little more about P21S TAW? The description says nothing about removing wax which would make me think it is ok as a normal car wash. Shouldn't there be a warning about not using it as your weekly car wash?
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Nah, it's pretty bad for normal washing. You have to dilute it quite a bit to avoid compromising LSPs and it lacks both lubricity and encapsulation (which I value quite highly for marring-free washes).



It's a super product for engine compartments/undercarriages and (properly diluted) for nasty interiors, but it's not really a miracle product that does everything the way the ad-copy implies.
 
User Name said:
Wash, Clay, Paint Cleaner, Wash, Polish, LSP.
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Yeah, that's the way to do it with the types of products a normal person would have on hand.



Note that *one* wash with something like AutoInt's "A", with a claying done during the wash, would have you ready for polish in one step. In my version of a perfect world, people would have a jug of "A" or TAW sitting around for those rare occasions like this one where it's just the right approach :D
 
Infraggable Kru said:
hey guys do you recoomend removing wax (after waxing ) by hand or with a 10" polisher with a microfiber ?
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you'd be using a bunch of MF bonnet's if you were to remove w/ machine, i'd always say remove by hand.
 
What about CGCWC rather than some of these others? They have CLEAR directions on lsp stripping right on the container.
 
Mindflux said:
What about CGCWC rather than some of these others? They have CLEAR directions on lsp stripping right on the container.
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I just used CGW&G this weekend to remove the LSP. Worked great, just like the instructions on the bottle said.
 
Ok, I cant't find the full name for "CGCWC" or "CGW&G".

Also, if I use Prepsol or IPA....do I wash again after using it?
 
Infraggable Kru said:
hey guys do you recoomend removing wax (after waxing ) by hand or with a 10" polisher with a microfiber ?
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If you remove by machine (I use the PC/Cyclos for this quite often), you'll still have to go over it by hand to get that last ~2% off. But letting the machine do the bulk of the work has its advantages ;) Put the wax on *very* thin or it won't work well though.
 
Accumulator said:
If you remove by machine (I use the PC/Cyclos for this quite often), you'll still have to go over it by hand to get that last ~2% off. But letting the machine do the bulk of the work has its advantages ;) Put the wax on *very* thin or it won't work well though.
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Accumulator, any experience with otc pain cleaners such as Megs or Mothers? Do they really remove all the old wax or sealants?
 
Legacy99 said:
Accumulator, any experience with otc pain cleaners such as Megs or Mothers? Do they really remove all the old wax or sealants?
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Very limited experience with Deep Crystal Step #1 Cleaner, and that was ages ago so I dunno if it's the same as what they're selling today (AFAIK it's the same). It worked just fine for removing the wax (and plenty of dirt/residue/etc.).



I dunno if it'd take off a really healthy coating of a really strong product like KSG though, at least not with just one try :nixweiss



Nothing *wrong* with the DC#1 though, at least not IME.
 
Most APC, alcohol, peanut butter oil, denatured alcohol, paint thinner will remove wax if you really want it removed.
 
Legacy99 said:
Ive heard of someone using lacquer thinner, is this safe for cc?
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Usually, at least if it's *FACTORY*/original paint. BUT (and it's a huge "but" ) it's usually *NOT* safe for any repainted areas and can strip the paint right off. You wouldn't be the first person who discovered a seemingly original panel was actuall a reapaint by wiping it with lacquer thinner ;) It's one of those things I just don't risk.



fishwagon said:
... if I use Prepsol or IPA....do I wash again after using it?
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No, it oughta wipe/evaporate off cleanly.
 
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