Water Containment

[quote name='opass']I came across this water recover system. It cost $250 + your wet vaccum machine. Anyone used this or similiar design? Like to know your thought. thanks.QUOTE]



Going water-less seems to be the easiest way around all the trouble.
 
doged said:
[quote name='opass']I came across this water recover system. It cost $250 + your wet vaccum machine. Anyone used this or similiar design? Like to know your thought. thanks.QUOTE]



Going water-less seems to be the easiest way around all the trouble.
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That's good suggestion, but sometimes the condition of the cars need the tradition way to wash. When that time comes, want to protect myself away from ticket. The above system seems cheap by comparing with other big one.
 
opass said:
The above system seems cheap by comparing with other big one.
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It costs about 10% of the Vacuboom (new/shipped) and you might get about the same value.



After having a few months of Vacuboom use under my belt and seeing how it works and when it works best, I can confidently say that unit from RL might be a waste of time. The RL berm itself looks to be about four to five feet- about the length of a single section of Vacuboom "berm." I typically use two sections (10 feet) when I lay it down as water tends to run a few different ways.



The vacuum unit (Eagle 202CFM Auto-Discharge) is lethargic when more than two segments are connected, often times not pulling the full ration of water in the last 2-3 feet. I am still running a 20 foot collection hose to the berms and may cut it to ten feet to better the pull. I don't know the typical CFM rating of commercial-grade ShopVacs but can tell you that I wouldn't trust mine to pull my wash water efficiently or last very long do so.



On a warm day I can wash two sedans before having to dump the vacuum. Five gallons or so. The Eagle vac makes disposal easy as it is Auto-Discharging. Hook it up to the sewer line on your home and flipa the switcha. I will be installing a 20 gallon loaf-tank in my van for between dumps. If you bust a 20 gallon ShopVac I would imagine it would be a difficult to maneuver once full.



That said, the cost might outweigh the negatives. Think about how much room you have, you volume, the surfaces you wash on and so forth. Lastly, call your water district and confirm that this unit meets their specifications and get it in writing.



My experiences and opinion, hope this helps.
 
jvriii1942 said:
Waterless is that just a QD or is more involved?



I looked at that product also.
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Not Dri-Wash and Guard, but Optimum No Rinse wash is what I would suggest. One gallon to wash a car, no rinsing needed and no run-off.
 
Scottwax said:
Not Dri-Wash and Guard, but Optimum No Rinse wash is what I would suggest. One gallon to wash a car, no rinsing needed and no run-off.
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Agreed. Optimum NRW and QEW in my opinion are the best options to be in compliance with the EPA, if you are doing regular personal vehicles daily, and even RV's (QEW is actually sold for RV owners). If you do trucks, equipment, etc., I think that is when you definitely are going to need some type of water containment system.
 
I would have to agree with Pssstue but if that’s your budget then something is better then nothing.



Pssstue a good friend of mine is a corporate sales dude in SB. He was telling me guy’s are washing cars in SB for $15 with no water containment? How does that work when you guy’s are being so responsible?
 
doged said:
Pssstue a good friend of mine is a corporate sales dude in SB. He was telling me guy’s are washing cars in SB for $15 with no water containment? How does that work when you guy’s are being so responsible?
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$10-15 actually.

No containment.

Two guys, 20-25 vehicles a day.



Those guys are unknowingly giving me more than enough business right now :) I can assure you that they are not aware of the paint damage they are causing on most of these vehicles. I am not adding any more "maintenance packages" to my schedule as five (or six) days of my week are filled with one and two step polishes. I am just a one man op, FYI.
 
pssstue said:
$10-15 actually.

No containment.

Two guys, 20-25 vehicles a day.



Those guys are unknowingly giving me more than enough business right now :) I can assure you that they are not aware of the paint damage they are causing on most of these vehicles. I am not adding any more "maintenance packages" to my schedule as five (or six) days of my week are filled with one and two step polishes. I am just a one man op, FYI.
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I’m with you there!!! The Mercedes dealer with the free swirl car wash is my best customer. I’m weeks booked in advance and working harder then ever? Got to love it.

Anyway it’s great that Pro detailers are acting responsible . Got to work now!!!
 
I have the Vacuboom, but hate getting it out and acually using it...I have a 30 gallon reclaim tank...I can wash about 6 vehicles before I have to dump. The guy who sold it to me said the it is legal to empty/dump into vegitation...so I dump on my lawn; does anybody know if this is really "legal?"



I have the Optimum NRW but only use it as a clay lube...my whole claim to fame when doing washing only services is that I marr the surface much less than any other wash alternative. I'm sure the NRW scratches more...I just don't know how much more, so I'll be sticking with the traditionl wash for now. I'm sure on the really clean vehicles the NRW would be fine, but most of the cars I wash are "dirty." It's a delima for sure :(
 
RAG said:
I have the Optimum NRW but only use it as a clay lube...my whole claim to fame when doing washing only services is that I marr the surface much less than any other wash alternative. I'm sure the NRW scratches more...I just don't know how much more, so I'll be sticking with the traditionl wash for now. I'm sure on the really clean vehicles the NRW would be fine, but most of the cars I wash are "dirty." It's a delima for sure :(
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I have a couple customer's vehicles more than a year old that I have yet to need to polish before waxing and all I have used is QEW and now ONR on them.



I have absolutely no marring problems with ONR, even on very dirty vehicles using the one bucket method.
 
Scott, that's reassuring to know. Thank you.



I assume you use a WW for both the wash media and for drying?
 
RAG said:
Scott, that's reassuring to know. Thank you.



I assume you use a WW for both the wash media and for drying?
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Chenille covered foam pads for washing, thick terry cloth for the first drying pass and microfiber for the finishing drying pass.
 
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