House of Wax
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This. I don't want trump, but there isn't much I wouldn't take over the hilldabeast
Was Trump out of Line?
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The Driver
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I think the real point is no one wants a convicted liar running this country or a person who changes their tune more then a friggin wind chime in a hurricane....
Just for fun, since we like playing devils advocate with trump, what makes Hillary such a great candidate? what has she done in the past 4 years to prove her self worthy of advancement?
heisenberg
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Full disclaimer: I don't like Clinton or Trump, not sure which side you fall on nor is it important, but since you said what you said in the first line, I feel compelled to point out that Trump does those very same things. Since you seemed to mention Hillary and convicted liar/windchime in the same sentence I'm directing this post at the Donald. If you didn't mean to insinuate that he is innocent here, then I apologize.
His gaffes range from complete ignorance, fabrication of statistics in others, and misinterpretation of others' words or even actual facts.
He has been incorrect on crime statistics, backtracked on things from his own personal website(which can be attributed to campaign staff, but still an embarrassing oversight), completely made up figures about spending, and thrown mud at other candidates that was simply untrue.
This kind of garbage is going to happen with both candidates, and I know Clinton has done the same. I am not loyal to a political party and all I ask out of a candidate is that they are as forthcoming as possible and knowledgeable about the immense power and stress they're in for if elected.
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I don't envy that job.
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
At the end, we will be presented a choice between two candidates so each party should nominate someone that will have a chance of winning.
None of the leading contenders are great but ultimately those of us that vote will choose one. I think Trump will drive more votes for Hilliary than Hilliary driving votes for Trump. He has insulted Hispanics, Muslims, and women. Hilliary is a true politician (best and worst).
No matter who wins they will be faced with a dysfunctional Congress and the president's power is quite limited since most everything they want to do costs money (build walls) and Congress controls the money.
None of the leading contenders are great but ultimately those of us that vote will choose one. I think Trump will drive more votes for Hilliary than Hilliary driving votes for Trump. He has insulted Hispanics, Muslims, and women. Hilliary is a true politician (best and worst).
No matter who wins they will be faced with a dysfunctional Congress and the president's power is quite limited since most everything they want to do costs money (build walls) and Congress controls the money.
dcjredline
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Its never who is the best candidate in my mind. Its who is the lesser of two evils. And that usually means Id rather not either one of them.
House of Wax
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I don't want to put words in Driver's mouth, but I'm guessing it has more to do with the trail of legitimate scandals, corruption, and flat out lying to the American people her entire career and while at times holding public office vs. the usual campaign trail b.s. we hear out of every politician running for office
The Driver
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Lying is one thing, but crime is another. I think people missed the biggest point with hillary. She broke the law with those emails, compromising classified data via sheer ignorance is borderline treason. Last time I checked General Patraeus and Mr. Snowden weren't doing to well with their mishandling of classified information...
This. Do you really want someone like trump negotiating with Putin (for instance)? Id rather have someone who has actual experience.
The Driver
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Even if it's with the worst results in history? Last time I checked employers don't hire employee's who have a proven record of low success. Trump may be an a$$ but regardless of the typical "of he has been bankrupt x times" the guy is successful and GETS THINGS DONE. He may not be a politician but he is a business man, you don't acquire that much capital by being a complete moron like the media loves to portray him as. I'm not saying he's the best candidate for the job but he's definitely the lesser of two evils.
I personally think trump is just over flaring this and will be much more reserved in office. He's a winner, he always wants to win, no matter what. To me this means he would be the only president, who could have a blank check for what ever guidance he needs. If he was elected I would almost guarantee that what ever situation presented itself he would probably hire the best minds in that sector to figure out the best solution for us. He wants to go down as the best, not just elected but legacy wise. He'll spend what ever he has to on outside resources to make sure history writes a good narrative. Also nice that he isn't owned by lobbyists, funny how the left preaches that yet the one company I passionately despise is backing Hillary (She lost almost 60k votes because of how she lied about it). Again just my take.
The Driver
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Not for anything but doesn't electoral have the last say?
Swanicyouth
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I have to laugh at all the people bashing Trump. Maybe they are thrilled with the state of the country....I'm not sure if he can win or not - but I'll take him any day over the career politician.
Wether you agree or not, Trump seems like the ONLY one out the with a chance, that has the guts to change anything.
If you put any of these other clowns in the Whitehouse it will just be 8 more years of business as usual. MORE illegals/terrorists permeating our soil, MORE taxes, and MORE government entitlements.
Wether you agree or not, Trump seems like the ONLY one out the with a chance, that has the guts to change anything.
If you put any of these other clowns in the Whitehouse it will just be 8 more years of business as usual. MORE illegals/terrorists permeating our soil, MORE taxes, and MORE government entitlements.
Stokdgs
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Actually since Putin is nothing but a THUG, and has just always had his way running over everyone in his path; Yeah I would rather have someone that is not scared of this thug, someone that is bigger, someone who is braver, someone who wants to help bring this Nation back to where it used to be..
Not the little wiener-wag-hidden-agenda-out of touch with reality-man in charge today...
But I digress....
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Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
I actually think if Trump is close to the nomination the party controllers will do something. Trump will run as an independent and Clinton wins.
What is funny is much of Obama is about a character debate but with Trump his supporters look like hypocrites but they are too blind to notice.
What is funny is much of Obama is about a character debate but with Trump his supporters look like hypocrites but they are too blind to notice.
xspwrstang
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With what I've seen and heard, Trump would become the next Hugo Chavez. He'd alienate other countries by "speaking his mind" and putting his foot in his mouth. Plain and simple this guy would set up back 50 yrs!
Angus
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Hugo Chavez is a great comparison to Trump. But instead he's set us back much further than 50 years...
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The Driver
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Hugo Chavez is a great comparison to Trump. But instead he's set us back much further than 50 years...
Funny, the Jews never went around mass murdering women and children. They never bombed malls in the name of a religion, they never attacked other countries through radical idealist views that preach death to christians. The Jews were a scapegoat that did NOTHING wrong, they were simply occupying a country. Don't ever classify MY PEOPLE with people who preach death to all but their own religion...
If your going to get your facts right, the Jews weren't the cause of the sinking of the lusitania, the extremist muslim religion DID lead to 911!
You have seriously got to be smoking something, PC my a$$.
xspwrstang
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Wow...that's a scary comparison. It just takes one person to stir up a mob in the wrong direction. Right now, that one person is Trump.
The Driver
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I'm not defending Trump but people who make this assumption (An A$$ out of u and me, remember that). He spoke about Illegals, not immigrants. My family has been in the international trade business for ages, were have employed many immigrants. All who applied and came here LEGALLY, some having to spend tens of thousands to get a lawyer to stay here permanently. People who work hard, PAY THEIR TAXES and do things the right way. Some faced serious hardship back in their home countries and yet they still made it here legally. Generalizing them with illegals is a spit in their face...
Illegals take from the system, send money back to their home countries and yes some not all are more likely to commit crimes. They may not be violent but not paying taxes or driving without insurance IS A CRIME. Quit these BS left wing generalities, the people who don't deal with this don't see, for those of us that are qualified to speak on the matter... I and many others find it disgraceful.
Illegals take from the system, send money back to their home countries and yes some not all are more likely to commit crimes. They may not be violent but not paying taxes or driving without insurance IS A CRIME. Quit these BS left wing generalities, the people who don't deal with this don't see, for those of us that are qualified to speak on the matter... I and many others find it disgraceful.
Angus
AspiringProductSpecialist
Yup. Wake up people!!!